10NL - Turned TP + NFD on 3 flush board

ev_slave · #1 10-16-2007, 09:31 PM

READS: Button is 34/26/8 over ~50 hands. Has raised several times in steal attempts.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.80
UTG+1: $12.30
CO: $10.50
Button: $5.35
Hero: $10.15
BB: $7.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button raises to $0.3, Hero calls, BB folds.

 I consider a 3-bet here to try to take momentum in the hand and set myself up to take it down easier on the flop, but I've only seen villain for a few orbits so I decide not to get too fancy. 

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.7, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.4, Button raises to $1, Hero calls.

 I flop 2 overs and NFD. I lead out as a semi-bluff so I increase the chance I get paid if I hit. Besides, he may just call. After his raise I'm getting decent odds to call, so I do. His raise doesn't scare me too much, as he could be raising to test if I have the made flush already. 

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.7, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, Button calls.

 I hit TPTK and bet because I just got ahead of a good portion of his range. It's mostly a value bet plus I still have redraws if behind. 

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6.2, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

 I plan to c/c to try to control the pot. I feel this gives JxXh a chance to bluff. Villain could also bet out a made flush, but without the nut flush I don't see him over-betting since I've been betting into the 3 flush cards already. If the bet is large in relation to the pot, I can find a fold, but like I say I plan to c/c.

Results:
Final pot: $6.2

Comments appreciated on all streets... bet sizing and the general line as well.

catoandtonic · #2 10-16-2007, 10:42 PM

Pre-flop, I would rather a 3-bet, but you sound aware of the benefits.

If your going to donk the flop, I like a bet close to size of the pot. Like .60. We are not in bad trouble if button comes along, but we benefit more if he doesn't. I would be tempted to re-pop his raise. He is very aggressive, so his weak raise doesn't represent strength like it would from a passive. If we re-pop him, we need to do it a pot-sized raise. I am not 100% sold on re-raising. I would like to hear other opinions on the issue. Calling is fine, though.

Turn is good. He was only a half-stack, and this bet is perfect to pot-commit him to call a river bet.

If I am reading right, he only has 2.35 left. We need to get that last bit of value in. After your leads, he will check behind with a J too much for us to check, imo. Also, he may be aware that 2.35 isn't enough for a bluff with the Kh to be effective. So, I wouldn't count on him bluffing river too often.

vixticator · #3 10-16-2007, 10:49 PM

I repop PF against this player close to every time. As played I am likely 3bet the flop, turn is fine, shove river.

Bigka79 · #4 10-16-2007, 10:55 PM

theres no pot to control on this river because we have already committed him to the pot. we need to push to make him pay to see out hand

KRE8R · #5 10-17-2007, 03:33 AM

There is no such thing as check/calling for pot control. You decided on the turn you were going for his stack and then failed to get it in on the river.