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Old 08-22-2007, 12:30 PM
-phish- -phish- is offline
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Default Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

villain is solid regular. 33/19/2.3 (4- max tables)
I played a lot vs him and he nearly never makes big bluffs. He dont know who i am cause i play on another acount but he views me as solid too.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
4 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $771.45
Button: $93.90
SB: $744.50
BB: $86.00

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($45, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $30</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $60</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($225, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $122</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $11</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($480, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $258, Sidepot 1: $222)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $300</font>, Hero ?

I have no idea what his flop-minraise means exept that he is not on a draw. I cant see him bluffing 300 on the river to win a 100$ sidepot. I felt very lost in this hand cause i can only put him on a set.

So what to do? call, raise or fold ?
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

Yeah this is tough, I can't really put him on a hand that you beat, but in the heat of battle I can honestly say I'd probably never lay this down, I'd call
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:10 PM
Leptyne Leptyne is offline
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

Flop check minraine is usually the sign of a set. When you call (forget BB) and he leads turn you can fold here if he is never making a move.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

Given his stats I find it very hard to fold here. I call.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:48 PM
Borned_Luckbox1 Borned_Luckbox1 is offline
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

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Flop check minraise is usually the sign of any two cards.

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FYP
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

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Given his stats I find it very hard to fold here. I call.

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They play 4-max tables. Villain's stats are probably standard.

I don't see how he could have anything other an a set here if he is really solid but I don't think I can get away from this hand
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

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Flop check minraise is usually the sign of any two cards.

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FYP

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He's doing this with 2 guys and the read is "he nearly never makes big bluffs."

His range is pretty narrow and he's building a big side pot. He's not bluffing then what do you beat? AA played really tricky? Ya, I don't think he's got that either.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

Raise turn for value. Call river although value-shoving is tempting.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

otis nixon is right on. the shortstacker changes things a lot. id stack off heads up, but in this spot villain has KJ at worst. i definitely fold on the river.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Nl400: Pleeease some advice....2pair on turn (200bb deep)

ya villains stats are standard for 4-max. He is actually tighter than most players.

Raising the turn isnīt a good idea imo cause either iam way ahead or way behind. In position i can make a decision on the river.
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