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Old 10-23-2007, 01:43 PM
pped5700 pped5700 is offline
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Default Re: easy to get away from AK on river?

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Wait, why the hell are we checking behind this turn? Because we know a J is coming on the river and want to control the pot size? Bet this turn 100%.

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Assuming a competent opponent; what is villains PrF, flop, and turn calling range? For a tight player,this is not Jx. How are you playing this turn with the rest of your opening range?
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:45 PM
WelshChip WelshChip is offline
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Default Re: easy to get away from AK on river?

you have nuts
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: easy to get away from AK on river?

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Wait, why the hell are we checking behind this turn? Because we know a J is coming on the river and want to control the pot size? Bet this turn 100%.

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Assuming a competent opponent; what is villains PrF, flop, and turn calling range? For a tight player,this is not Jx. How are you playing this turn with the rest of your opening range?

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people don't fold AQ or A10 here, like ever.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: easy to get away from AK on river?

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Wait, why the hell are we checking behind this turn? Because we know a J is coming on the river and want to control the pot size? Bet this turn 100%.

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Assuming a competent opponent; what is villains PrF, flop, and turn calling range? For a tight player,this is not Jx. How are you playing this turn with the rest of your opening range?

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people don't fold AQ or A10 here, like ever.

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Thats about 2 of the few hands we get value from, IMO. And where did he get AQ from? You dont think he 3-bets an OTB opener with that AQ?
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:32 PM
Lagtastic Lagtastic is offline
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Default Re: easy to get away from AK on river?

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crappy river, but the river is a must call. a seemingly tight player is not calling you all the way to the river with an unimproved pair of jacks. he either has a boat, or you have him crushed. This is a perfect card to bluff a strong ace, and you have to suck it up and take your 3:1 odds.

This is without reads. Results?

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this is basically exactly my thought process. I had this sinking feeling, that he had KJ suited but I made the crying call.

He showed me QJ off. siiiiiiiigh [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:00 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: easy to get away from AK on river?

I usually check the turn planning to call a river bet, or make a value bet on the river if checked to.

As played, call the river. The pot is too big, and he will show up with less than a monster enough to justify a call with about 3-1 pot odds.
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