**Official uNL is this standard thread** - Page 9

Sweir · #81 05-07-2007, 12:58 PM

@Chomp: yea don't fold the flop, you probably have loads of outs with the NFD and 2 overs. Was he raising cbets a lot and folding when someone 3bet, if so then just push the flop. I might just push the flop anyway because its good for your image, you have FE, and if called you get to see 2 streets with lots of outs. Obv cbet there.

Supwithbates · #82 05-07-2007, 01:34 PM

villain is unknown
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.75
Hero (BB): $29.05
UTG: $39.15
MP: $86.70
CO: $54.05
BTN: $32.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, UTG folds

Flop: ($2.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $6.50, Hero raises all-in to $28.05

How does this line fare against:
1) an unknown at 25NL
2) a known LAG/donk
3) a known nit
4) a known TAG/good player
5) a known station/fish

My thoughts:
1) meh
2) great
3) fold to flop raise
4) undecided, but I'd lead toward just calling the raise
5) great

Basically, is this line ever folding out anything I beat? How often are players calling with something worse?
What I beat that might call:
worse 2pair
naked flush draws
overpair+fd
overpair no FD
pair+FD

What beats me that is almost certainly calling:
sets and flushes

bozzer · #83 05-07-2007, 01:42 PM

Sup, this hand is probably worth posting in its own thread if you have that many questions about it.

Mr_Pathetic · #84 05-07-2007, 02:17 PM

Standard or Stupid??

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $4.94
Hero (BB): $2.14
UTG: $1.30
CO: $3.29
BTN: $0.94

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T

(5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.10, CO calls $0.08, BTN folds

Flop: ($0.23) 7

Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5

(2 Players)
Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.63) Q

(2 Players)
Hero bets $0.44, CO calls $0.44

River: ($1.51) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $1.40, CO calls $1.40

Pot Size: $4.31 ($0.20 Rake)

ciro bonano · #85 05-07-2007, 03:22 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) handconverter.com

MP ($46.00)
CO ($27.05)
Button ($31.75)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($9.75)
UTG ($20.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $1, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $18.95, MP folds, Hero folds.

BishopsFinger · #86 05-07-2007, 03:54 PM

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $26.15
BB: $34.40
UTG: $23.05
MP: $27.90
CO: $41.80
Hero (BTN): $55.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1.15, BB folds, MP calls $1

Flop: ($4) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $3, SB folds, MP calls $3

Turn: ($10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP bets $5.75, Hero raises to $25, MP calls all-in for $17.90
Uncalled bet of $1.35 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $57.30 ($2.85 Rake)

river shove or just call?

Hoffma · #87 05-08-2007, 06:52 AM

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $10.69
BB: $16.53
UTG: $6.62
MP: $1.20
CO: $5.71
Hero (BTN): $10.34

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO folds, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds

Pot Size: $1.60

I'm not terribly fond of this limp, but otherwise, standard?

Kimpan · #88 05-08-2007, 06:57 AM

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $26.15
BB: $34.40
UTG: $23.05
MP: $27.90
CO: $41.80
Hero (BTN): $55.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1.15, BB folds, MP calls $1

Flop: ($4) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $3, SB folds, MP calls $3

Turn: ($10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP bets $5.75, Hero raises to $25, MP calls all-in for $17.90
Uncalled bet of $1.35 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $57.30 ($2.85 Rake)

river shove or just call?

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I would just call this river, he probably has the flush..
I don't see any worse hands calling to that push.

Genz · #89 05-08-2007, 07:52 AM

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $10.69
BB: $16.53
UTG: $6.62
MP: $1.20
CO: $5.71
Hero (BTN): $10.34

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO folds, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds

Pot Size: $1.60

I'm not terribly fond of this limp, but otherwise, standard?

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You are drawing at the bottom end of the straight and to the lowest possible flush. With the overcall, your fold equity is debatable. Maybe I take a card off, but I usually do not try to push two opponents out of a hand like this.

ama0330 · #90 05-08-2007, 09:10 AM

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $10.69
BB: $16.53
UTG: $6.62
MP: $1.20
CO: $5.71
Hero (BTN): $10.34

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO folds, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds

Pot Size: $1.60

I'm not terribly fond of this limp, but otherwise, standard?

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You are drawing at the bottom end of the straight and to the lowest possible flush. With the overcall, your fold equity is debatable. Maybe I take a card off, but I usually do not try to push two opponents out of a hand like this.

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I like this.