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Old 11-14-2007, 11:21 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $114: post flop part 1

Villian is a 40/20 tard. Shove PF? How's the rest?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2135)
CO (t3230)
Button (t3450)
SB (t3535)
Hero (t1150)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero checks

Flop: (t250) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: (t250) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t150</font>, Button calls t150

River: (t550) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t200</font>, <font color="gray">Hero?</font>
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:51 AM
sean457j sean457j is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

I think I would shove pf, just so it makes villain think twice before limping into your blind again. As played, using his post flop stats and your read on him - I would mostly c/bet, turn bet if I thought I was ok. Definitely looks like villain has hit something more than a pair on the end, I think I would have to fold the river.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:56 AM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

Shove pre is good.
Flop is standard and turn is standard. River is really close, but I think I call, you need to be good 1:4 times, but I don't really see what he can have 69s?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:59 AM
wbmustang wbmustang is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

This is true to me it seems like he may have backed his way into a flush. That might be the only reason the button actually called that bet. However it is a small enough bet that I might think about calling but more than likely I would fold.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:30 PM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

I would not push pre, a 40/20 tard calls with K8o here so I think his calling range is big and probably still ahead of QJs.

I like the check on the flop and check again on the turn so there is more bluff in his range when he bets.

A played I might find a river call. Str8 draws, 8s, worst J are part of his range, imo.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:51 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

Shove pre. As played seems fine assuming a river call.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:25 PM
DDBeast DDBeast is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

I definitely shove pf. 40% is a lot of hands and QJs does great against them. He probably would have raised any 1/2 decent hand, it's rare that he'll limp AJ/KQ type hands on the button. Other than that I play it the same and easily call the river, this is busted draws a lot.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:58 PM
MikeMcQ1 MikeMcQ1 is offline
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

I'm in the shove PF camp, and I would have called the river.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

i might need to work on shoving preflop. i know it is +EV by a bit, but i always figure a free flop is better.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: $114: post flop part 1

shove pre all day.now call but dont be too happy about it.
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