Ichiro and a hypothetical question for stats/Sabermetrics folks

[NT!]

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How can ichiro lose 48 points of BA, but less than that in OBP?

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guys with a higher SLG are more likely to get walked / pitched around because you don't want to give up an XBH, obv.

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The whole question is absurd since with ichiro baserunning skills you need him on base as much as possible.

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LOL

[mo42nyy]

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Also, "Speed" is reflected in a players Slugging Percentage, and a players Stolen Base ability is often barely +EV, if not -EV.

In fairness to Ichriro though, his last 2 seasons re: SB's have been ridiculous.

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Mark McGwire in 2001 batted 187 and slugged 492
He had 56 hits, 4 doubles,29 homers and 23 singles
A lot more goes into slugging that just speed

[Hoya]

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Also, "Speed" is reflected in a players Slugging Percentage, and a players Stolen Base ability is often barely +EV, if not -EV.

In fairness to Ichriro though, his last 2 seasons re: SB's have been ridiculous.

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Mark McGwire in 2001 batted 187 and slugged 492
He had 56 hits, 4 doubles,29 homers and 23 singles
A lot more goes into slugging that just speed

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Uhh . . . what?

[kyleb]

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Also, "Speed" is reflected in a players Slugging Percentage, and a players Stolen Base ability is often barely +EV, if not -EV.

In fairness to Ichriro though, his last 2 seasons re: SB's have been ridiculous.

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Mark McGwire in 2001 batted 187 and slugged 492
He had 56 hits, 4 doubles,29 homers and 23 singles
A lot more goes into slugging that just speed

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you're doing it wrong

whatever "it" is, anyway

[THAY3R]

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Also, "Speed" is reflected in a players Slugging Percentage, and a players Stolen Base ability is often barely +EV, if not -EV.

In fairness to Ichriro though, his last 2 seasons re: SB's have been ridiculous.

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Mark McGwire in 2001 batted 187 and slugged 492
He had 56 hits, 4 doubles,29 homers and 23 singles
A lot more goes into slugging that just speed

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Brilliant insight, thanks.

[mo42nyy]

mcgwire was slow as [censored] but since over half his hits were homers his slowness didnt really drag his slugging pct down
A lot more goes into SLG than just speed and Ichiros speed isnt fully accounted for in SLG PCT

[mo42nyy]

does your barely +ev for his steals account for the fact that him on base makes the pitcher work a lot harder and makes the abs easier for the guys behind him?

[THAY3R]

Wait, so Home runs impact a players SLG?


BRILLIANT!

[mo42nyy]

you're the genius who said his speed would be reflected in slugging pct as though it wouldnt be reflected anywhere else

[THAY3R]

My statement was correct, yours was just dumb.