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11-08-2007, 11:49 PM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
it's a scam because if the purpose wasn't greater taxation and control (which is the real purpose of the scam), then the real logical thing to do would be to pump money into solar power.
the nano solar guys are saying solar will be competitive within 5 years, if they can just be left alone to do their thing. the article below reads like an ad and probably is, but the reality is that the infant nanotech industry is headed there. it's a lot money to retool, and if g.w. were real, the gov could spend a lot of money on nano solar research, and then a lot of money on retooling the economy away from oil and onto solar. the fact that they just want to tax and regulate and control more, and that's it, as a responsse to manmade global warming is the biggest reason it can't be real. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...9/ccview19.xml [ QUOTE ] The "tipping point" will arrive when the capital cost of solar power falls below $1 (51p) per watt, roughly the cost of carbon power. We are not there yet. The best options today vary from $3 to $4 per watt - down from $100 in the late 1970s. Mr Sethi believes his product will cut the cost to 80 cents per watt within five years, and 50 cents in a decade. It is based on a CIGS (CuInGaSe2) semiconductor compound that absorbs light by freeing electrons. This is then embedded on the polymer base. It will be ready commercially in late 2009. "It'll even work on a cold, grey, cloudy day in England, which still produces 25pc to 30pc of the optimal light level. That is enough, if you cover half the roof," he said. "We don't need subsidies, we just need governments to get out of the way and do no harm. They've spent $170bn subsidising nuclear power over the last thirty years," he said. [/ QUOTE ] 
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11-08-2007, 11:53 PM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
I think the extreme increase in the polar bear population within the last year would corroborate his view.
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11-08-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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it's a scam because if the purpose wasn't greater taxation and control (which is the real purpose of the scam), then the real logical thing to do would be to pump money into solar power. [/ QUOTE ] The federal government already has a variety of subsidy programs for renewable energy and more money is a part of most of the presidential candidates platforms.
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11-09-2007, 12:04 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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The federal government already has a variety of subsidy programs for renewable energy and more money is a part of most of the presidential candidates platforms. [/ QUOTE ] no I mean like a manhattan project for solar energy, and then a lot of programs to get individuals and businesses and industries to switch over. I mean, right now renewable energy is just a waste for 99% because it just isn't cost competitive.
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11-09-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] The federal government already has a variety of subsidy programs for renewable energy and more money is a part of most of the presidential candidates platforms. [/ QUOTE ] no I mean like a manhattan project for solar energy, and then a lot of programs to get individuals and businesses and industries to switch over. [/ QUOTE ] Government will fight distributed solar tooth and nail because it would largely decentralize electric power generation and threaten the electric power cartel.
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11-09-2007, 01:53 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The federal government already has a variety of subsidy programs for renewable energy and more money is a part of most of the presidential candidates platforms. [/ QUOTE ] no I mean like a manhattan project for solar energy, and then a lot of programs to get individuals and businesses and industries to switch over. [/ QUOTE ] Government will fight distributed solar tooth and nail because it would largely decentralize electric power generation and threaten the electric power cartel. [/ QUOTE ] A good thing the government is there to keep us from ravaging the environment, isn't it?
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11-09-2007, 03:56 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] The federal government already has a variety of subsidy programs for renewable energy and more money is a part of most of the presidential candidates platforms. [/ QUOTE ] no I mean like a manhattan project for solar energy, and then a lot of programs to get individuals and businesses and industries to switch over. I mean, right now renewable energy is just a waste for 99% because it just isn't cost competitive. [/ QUOTE ] The manhattan project was to spend money to buld a nuclear bomb. Government spending is not going to make a non price comeptitive product price competitive. Did the government subsidize the car industry to replace horses? In fact can you site one example where government made an entire industry price competitive? Sure wasn't the Post Office!
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11-09-2007, 04:12 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The federal government already has a variety of subsidy programs for renewable energy and more money is a part of most of the presidential candidates platforms. [/ QUOTE ] no I mean like a manhattan project for solar energy, and then a lot of programs to get individuals and businesses and industries to switch over. I mean, right now renewable energy is just a waste for 99% because it just isn't cost competitive. [/ QUOTE ] The manhattan project was to spend money to buld a nuclear bomb. Government spending is not going to make a non price comeptitive product price competitive. Did the government subsidize the car industry to replace horses? In fact can you site one example where government made an entire industry price competitive? Sure wasn't the Post Office! [/ QUOTE ] Sure, by banning hemp, they made all kings of things price competitive with hemp products.
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11-09-2007, 04:24 AM
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Re: Weather Channel Founder says\"Global Warming is Biggest Scam in His
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The manhattan project was to spend money to buld a nuclear bomb. Government spending is not going to make a non price comeptitive product price competitive. Did the government subsidize the car industry to replace horses? In fact can you site one example where government made an entire industry price competitive? Sure wasn't the Post Office! [/ QUOTE ] the point is that in 1940, atomic bombs were about a decade or two away given advancing technology. today, given nanotechnoly and it's advancement, solar power that is *cheaper* than fossil fuels is between 10 and 30 years depending on who you ask. I posted a link to one guy in this thread. see the parallel?
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