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Old 11-05-2007, 11:57 PM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

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CO ($422.10)
Button ($539)
SB ($396)
BB ($352)
UTG ($553.30)
Hero ($1545.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $12, UTG calls $12.

Flop: ($50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24, BB folds.

Turn: ($98) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $64</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $199</font>, UTG calls $135.

River: ($496) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $314.3 (All-In)</font>,

Hero ??? (and why?)

Villain: 47/8.3/0.5/36 hands (no reads)
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:10 AM
dragonystic dragonystic is offline
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

i think you gotta call it.

villain looks awful enough to show up with worse hands some of the time. you need to be good here about 39% of the time. that seems likely.

call and berate.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

Raise the flop vs this clown, it doesn't look likes he likes to fold.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

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Raise the flop vs this clown, it doesn't look likes he likes to fold.

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i like a call way more than a raise on this flop
obviously you gotta do it sometimes but its sooo dry...

anyway, i call
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:03 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

he's usually calling a raise with 8x, 99/TT, 45, A4. there's a lot of value in raising this flop.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:16 PM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

The flop is as dry as it gets and there's a third player that might get sucked into the pot with a flat call.
If I raise here I represent 99+. My reasoning was that I get more value out of the hand if I don't show strength right away. Further I think if I give both villains the chance to improve to trips or 2 pair they will certainly stack off with a hand that they might fold to a raise on the flop.
The only reason to raise the flop is to build the pot and I thought I could still do this on the turn and river.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

I would probably fold river... looks like he has a straight or a flush very often. What the is he calling turn and pushing river w/ that wasn't a uncompleted draw on turn?
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

Besides, flop call is prefectly fine imo.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: (NL400) Bottom Set doesn\'t look like much on the river

Fairly sure you're [censored] on the river.
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