turn decison w. middle 2

Bump_Bailey · #1 10-17-2007, 12:49 AM

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $103.00
UTG: $200.00
MP: $124.45
CO: $57.80
Button: $123.10
SB: $172.95

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, Button folds, SB calls $6, BB folds.

Flop: ($23.00) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, CO folds, SB calls $18.

Turn: ($59.00) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ??

villain is 70/1/1 over a few orbits.

chucky · #2 10-17-2007, 01:10 AM

Check behind. Your hand really has not changed much and OOP villian wont bluff river much.

T-God · #3 10-17-2007, 01:50 AM

Agree with check behind

pete fabrizio · #4 10-17-2007, 02:51 AM

bet. you don't have anything worth drawing to, there's a decent chance you're ahead, and he may fold a better hand. and if you get check-raised or called and led into, you can fold with no regrets.

Spewie · #5 10-17-2007, 03:14 AM

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bet. you don't have anything worth drawing to, there's a decent chance you're ahead, and he may fold a better hand. and if you get check-raised or called and led into, you can fold with no regrets.

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Are you thinking about a smallish, 1/3 pot bet? I think a full pot bet is just spew here.

pete fabrizio · #6 10-17-2007, 03:49 AM

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bet. you don't have anything worth drawing to, there's a decent chance you're ahead, and he may fold a better hand. and if you get check-raised or called and led into, you can fold with no regrets.

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Are you thinking about a smallish, 1/3 pot bet? I think a full pot bet is just spew here.

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just bet the same amount you would bet with anything else. and fwiw, i think anyone that ever bets 1/3 pot is a tard.

Spewie · #7 10-17-2007, 04:14 AM

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bet. you don't have anything worth drawing to, there's a decent chance you're ahead, and he may fold a better hand. and if you get check-raised or called and led into, you can fold with no regrets.

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Are you thinking about a smallish, 1/3 pot bet? I think a full pot bet is just spew here.

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just bet the same amount you would bet with anything else. and fwiw, i think anyone that ever bets 1/3 pot is a tard.

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How much is 'the same amount you would bet with anything else'?

I totally disagree. A defensive 1/3 - 1/2 pot bet isn't a bad bet unless your opponent recognizes it is a weak bet and will raise with anything (not a 70/1/1 player). This bet will let you check behind on the river while getting more money into the pot when you might be the the favorite.

OOP this is not a good bet, but you would probably be checking anyways.

You have to use this bet against the right people. I think a 70/1/1 player is perfect for a defensive bet.

sondring · #8 10-17-2007, 12:12 PM

I agree w/ pete. villain is most likely drawing and we should bet to enough to give him incorrect odds to call.

A 1/3 pot flop/turn bet with anything other then the immortal nuts seems like a sin in Omaha. Villain can (and will) correctly call our weak bet with whatever he called the flop with.

Bump_Bailey · #9 10-17-2007, 12:19 PM

Ok, i checked behind, but i like like 1/2 psb. River was a Td and villain led for 1/2 psb. Call or fold?

Spewie · #10 10-17-2007, 01:24 PM

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Ok, i checked behind, but i like like 1/2 psb. River was a Td and villain led for 1/2 psb. Call or fold?

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Betting on the turn would allow you to check behind on the river (probably). This is why I love to bet the turn in position with a marginal hand against a non-tricky opponent... I often get to show down the hand for free.