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Old 09-02-2007, 05:05 AM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

def call the raise, UTG cant put us on anything worse than a J and isnt overshoving w/ a bluff often. Id lay down to his 3bAI
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Old 09-02-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

Yah calling the first time and folding to the push seems very correct here to me.

I honestly think that everyone that is advocating a fold just didn't read the stack sizes here. I mean, ffs, when some random 25bb piece of crap shortie goes all in and I have TPTK, I'm never ever folding.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

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Yah calling the first time and folding to the push seems very correct here to me.

I honestly think that everyone that is advocating a fold just didn't read the stack sizes here. I mean, ffs, when some random 25bb piece of crap shortie goes all in and I have TPTK, I'm never ever folding.

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Its not about the shortie, i am sure we have the best hand versus him...... its about UTG, who probably has a very good hand (qq+ akss), since he s cbeting this coordinated flop into 2 people with a shortstack............
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:48 AM
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fold/squeeze pre
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: AJ in a tough spot

problem about calling/folding to push is that the board is draw heavy and hes gonna push a draw every time.
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:59 AM
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You're folding the flop because if you do anything else you're putting in a good amount of money against an UTG who can play perfectly against you.

TPTK is the nuts on boards like this usually because usually your range includes bluffs which means that UTG has to play many hands worse than TPTK or else you'll own him. Here, you obv can't be bluffing because the side pot is dry, and you can't have a draw except a big combo draw because you're not getting odds and obv you have no implied odds with the dry side pot. So UTG has a really easy fold with KJ.

Since nobody folds better than TPTK ever, UTG won't drop any hands that beat you either. So he's playing totally perfectly against you, and you're committing a lot of money getting [censored] pot odds.
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