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Old 06-29-2007, 12:02 AM
wpr101 wpr101 is offline
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

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I don't think any of us can honestly say we always have a plan 1 or 2 streets ahead... it's easy to say I should have had a plan in retrospect.

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this seems really bad, I'm not trying to make myself look good, but I always have a plan from flop/river.

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Even 12 tabling though (I had 8 up)? But I'm saying sometimes the the turn or river comes up differently than we expect and our plan has to change. I get what your saying though, you have a plan for when it's a blank versus scare card, etc.

EDIT: It's not like I'm completely clueless on the river. It's just that I wasn't thinking along the terms of I'm going for a double barrel bluff here.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

IMO its more important to have a solid plan 12 tabling, and yea I might make a standard river valuebet not 100% sure if im calling a C/R.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

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I'm trying to make it look like I've got QQ+ playing for pot control.


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Why would you be playing for pot control with QQ+ here?
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

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I'm trying to make it look like I've got QQ+ playing for pot control.


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Why would you be playing for pot control with QQ+ here?

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Because we have over 200 BB?
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:29 AM
nanonoko nanonoko is offline
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

WPR101: I usually don't have plans when I play. I'm a feel player. =) So I'm guessing he called, what's the river?
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

if you are trying to bluff why not do it when it makes sense, on the flop?
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

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WPR101: I usually don't have plans when I play. I'm a feel player. =) So I'm guessing he called, what's the river?

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He insta folded actually.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

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if you are trying to bluff why not do it when it makes sense, on the flop?

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I'm not sure what you mean by make sense. I could easily play QQ+ this way like I said. He's playing like 40/23 so it's not that unresonable that I would let him bluff at it if I had a hand.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: $600 NL: Deep Stacks, AKs versus H@llinggol

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I'm not sure what you mean by make sense. I could easily play QQ+ this way like I said. He's playing like 40/23 so it's not that unresonable that I would let him bluff at it if I had a hand.

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If you want him to believe you have QQ+ chance, a better line is to bet the flop..? Most of time you should be betting the flop so why would you want to convince him that you have QQ+ by taking the less popular alternate line?

Still not sure what I would do on a lot of rivers, if called on the turn.
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:05 AM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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its not good to make this play w/o having a plan imo. id just fire flop. also i doubt he thinks you would check flop here with QQ+ for pot control vs someone who is playing very smartLAG

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