NL 100, KK can't let flush draw can't give too much implied odds

[igetbadbeat]

I also thought he had a set, i typed 66? in teh chat as I raised all in. Legopoker took that out though. I believed I was playing poorly and wanted confirmation...and I GOT IT!

[w33ktight]

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I would really like to hear thoughts on this from a lot of people - not only about whether or not to fold the turn - but also determining whether or not villain has a set. In this situation I think it is very likely, however I seem to be outnumbered. Thoughts?

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a "very solid reg" raises preflop with QQ, and the flop with a set

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a "very solid reg" raises preflop with QQ, and the flop with a set

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I obv see the 3bet pf with QQ, but I still have no reason why a very solid reg has to be raising this flop with a set. Anyone care to give explanation?

[w33ktight]

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a "very solid reg" raises preflop with QQ, and the flop with a set

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I obv see the 3bet pf with QQ, but I still have no reason why a very solid reg has to be raising this flop with a set. Anyone care to give explanation?

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because there is a flush draw on the flop and you want somone to go broke with AQ KK or AA

its really not that hard

[Makonnen]

But, at this point, he's h/u against the original raiser. I don't think 66 necessarily raises here: even if he puts hero on hearts, its got to be AhKh, and letting a card come off to increase the set value makes sense to me.

If there were two players left, I totally agree that a call would equal no set from a good player. But, h/u, I just don't see the flop raise as that automatic.

[loosbastard]

Note to self: Smooth calling w/ a set on a wet board against a standard TAG = profit.

[igetbadbeat]

Also a lot of low stakes mediocre but solid players call flop and raise turn with a monster automatically.

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But, at this point, he's h/u against the original raiser. I don't think 66 necessarily raises here: even if he puts hero on hearts, its got to be AhKh, and letting a card come off to increase the set value makes sense to me.

If there were two players left, I totally agree that a call would equal no set from a good player. But, h/u, I just don't see the flop raise as that automatic.

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ty. agreed.

[thedustbustr]

i saw results so take this with a grain of salt. haven't read replies.

as you see you can't eliminate a set from his range. whether he is good or not.

regardless, i like the flop bet bc the board is pretty dry, as high cards are more likely than draws and high cards mostly missed. the turn bet i would pot though, it looks like a double barrel, AQ/KQ probably don't fold, and few people are folding hearts at this level. also, i want to try get as much money in as possible bc KQ+ is never folding to a 3barrel here if the river blanks. if you pot it, it also is a lot more reasonable to fold, just because it takes bigger balls to semibluff in a big pot than a small one. as played, i push fo sho.

[bilbo-san]

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a "very solid reg" raises preflop with QQ, and the flop with a set

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I obv see the 3bet pf with QQ, but I still have no reason why a very solid reg has to be raising this flop with a set. Anyone care to give explanation?

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because there is a flush draw on the flop and you want somone to go broke with AQ KK or AA

its really not that hard

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Fearing the flush draw heads-up = super MUBS.

Easiest way to break AA here is to use position to call, then when he checks you bet, he stack-a-donks, and you call.

Raising flop is fine sometimes too but if you raise sets and draws EVERY time in this situation, you really aren't a "very solid reg".