NL 100, KK can't let flush draw can't give too much implied odds

[igetbadbeat]

SB: $103.10
BB: $100
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $155.75</font>
MP: $38.80
CO: $166.60
BTN: $178.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, MP calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, MP folds, CO calls $9

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>,


What do I do if villain raises? Just chuck it? Or shove anyway? This could be prime set area, villain is a solid player. Solid for NL 100...I could see AQhh raising here and maybe AQ or KQ but any raise commits himself.

[shpanko]

If CO is good then he doesn't have a set here he has a draw. If he raises yeah I'd probably just shove, though we are a bit deep.

This is pretty standard though and I'm not sure why you posted it. I mean of course you should bet the turn, what's the problem?

[BombayBadboy]

Like shpanko said, a solid reg never has a set here. They would raise that drawy flop all day every day.

I'm not folding this.

[freedom18]

shpanko he posted it with the question of what to do on the turn if villan shows any aggression. I think this is a very tough spot that we encounter alot and it really depends on reads on our opponent. I usually fold these turns vs unknown aggression as a standard.

[igetbadbeat]

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shpanko he posted it with the question of what to do on the turn if villan shows any aggression. I think this is a very tough spot that we encounter alot and it really depends on reads on our opponent. I usually fold these turns vs unknown aggression as a standard.

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Him calling the flop is also why I shoved. Here's the rest of the hand history. Just wanted to know how bad/marginal/good my shove was. After reading replies, I think it was marginal and i feel fine about it.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $103.10
BB: $100
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $155.75</font>
MP: $38.80
CO: $166.60
BTN: $178.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, MP calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, MP folds, CO calls $9

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $143.25</font>, CO calls $83.25

<font color="black">River:</font> ($316.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $316.50 ($3 Rake)

CO had 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Sixes full of Twos) and WON (+$157.75)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Twos) and LOST (-$155.75)

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Like shpanko said, a solid reg never has a set here.

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Rly? What is ur reasoning for a solid reg not having a set here...

[igetbadbeat]

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Like shpanko said, a solid reg never has a set here.

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Rly? What is ur reasoning for a solid reg not having a set here...

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So in people's opinions how often should I fold the turn?

[silenced]

Personally, I find a fold on the turn. If villain is a very solid reg, I have no reason to assume that he doesnt have a set simply because he didnt raise your flop cbet (i really don't understand shpanko badboy's assumption there). In addition, calling a flop cbet, and raising a second barrel 3x means that one pair is almost always going to be beat. I fold this.

[silenced]

I would really like to hear thoughts on this from a lot of people - not only about whether or not to fold the turn - but also determining whether or not villain has a set. In this situation I think it is very likely, however I seem to be outnumbered. Thoughts?

[BallinPro]

If you figured he was a solid player and he reraised then you most likely should've just flat called or folded your hand