NLCASH - I get owned by players who limp-call

[iSTRONG]

example:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (BB): $300.10
SB: $346.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB calls $1.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, SB calls $8.00

Flop: ($20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $90.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $336.90</font>, Hero calls all-in for $200.10
Uncalled bet of $46.80 returned to SB
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($600.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($600.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $600.20 ($0.50 Rake)

SB had 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Twos) and WON (+$299.60)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Twos) and LOST (-$300.10)


and this happens all the time... should i be willing to laydown aces there?

[Vinetou]

Players who limp call are usually stupid enough to do that with TPWK. I would stack here and hate it everytime.

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Players who limp call are usually stupid enough to do that with TPWK. I would stack here and hate it everytime.

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I dont think this is true at all - you might see JJ+, maybe AT sometimes but I agree that players in those sorta spots tend to have monsters when they limp call and then suddenly wanna play for stacks.

Thinking about it, if they have JJ+ they are prolly limping to reraise, so when the board comes out paired and they wanna play for stacks I find it hard to think what they can have that's not huge.

[jakeduke]

I would just call the minraise against this guy. That board is SO dry - his range is like {2x, Tx, air} and that's about it. Maybe throw in a small PP that's minraising to "see where he's at". In my experience people LRR JJ+ more than limp/call, so it's really hard for him to have a big enough hand to call a 3bet unless he has a 2. In any case, I'd say getting 150BB in on this flop (unless you know villain is gonna put you on a bluff here) is a pretty bad idea. I'd call the flop raise and either c/c or c/r the turn.

[Vinetou]

It sucks that you posted results. Playing passive is another alternative. It might even be better, I agree with jakeduke here. But however, call him down to the river.

[kolotoure]

I am calling flop raise and playing it as wa/wb

[iSTRONG]

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I am calling flop raise and playing it as wa/wb

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I feel like playing it as wa/wb gives your hand away and removes hands like AK completely from our range. by pushing we might get Tx or a PP to believe that we're pulling a move...

[olof86]

im just calling his minraise, and I suppose I'd just checkcall turn if I don't get the feeling he got something like 10x

[KexChoklad123]

If you never wanna fold here you should get the money in in another way. Passive line is better. Passive, coming to life on turn/river also. Like this you don't give him the chance to make a mistake. IMO.

[abcjnich]

I probably call his min raise and bet/raise non Ts turn and rivers. Raising his min bet isn't bad either.