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Old 08-26-2007, 08:05 AM
Scipio Scipio is offline
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Default How do get Value from AA here?

Should i 5-bet preflop?
I was relativ sure that he fold all hands except KK/AA, so it doesn´t sound good to me. The small could be a kind of information raise.

On the turn i tried a checkraise.
Which betsize should i choose on the River that he calls with AK? Which betsize do you recommend?
How likely do you think is the chance that he has QQ/JJ here?

Villain : 22/11/2,61/27 - 400 hands, no other reads

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Button: $557.60
Hero: $845.15
BB: $238.10

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $53</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $115</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($234, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($234, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($234, 2 players)
Hero bets ...
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: How do get Value from AA here?

Bet turn, on river bet 190.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: How do get Value from AA here?

i dont like the preflop call

i would rather just shove it in (or raise ~300) and hope he calls
there are so many bad flops you dont wanna see and its hard to laydown AA so with the nice stacksizes just put it in when youre 100% big favourite..also your out of position which sucks..
i dont like the flopcheck either, he will check alooot of hands there and a freecard could easily kill you or your action

as played i would bet the turn
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:49 AM
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Bet turn yeah
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: How do get Value from AA here?

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i dont like the preflop call

i would rather just shove it in (or raise ~300) and hope he calls
there are so many bad flops you dont wanna see and its hard to laydown AA so with the nice stacksizes just put it in when youre 100% big favourite..also your out of position which sucks..
i dont like the flopcheck either, he will check alooot of hands there and a freecard could easily kill you or your action


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wrong. pf call is fine. flop check is aiming for a c/r and the board is not really wet. turn, however, is a bet. now bet river obv.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:28 AM
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no, pf is awful. He's going all the way w/ AK pf, but if he whiffs on the flop then he isnt putting ny more $$ in a large % of the time. Please push.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:43 AM
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no, pf is awful. He's going all the way w/ AK pf, but if he whiffs on the flop then he isnt putting ny more $$ in a large % of the time. Please push.

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maybe, but op has 2 aces so the AK is less likely here than TT/JJ/QQ all hands that villain can fold preflop if he's any good against a 5bet...
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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no, pf is awful. He's going all the way w/ AK pf, but if he whiffs on the flop then he isnt putting ny more $$ in a large % of the time. Please push.

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pf is by no means "awful". you are righ if you argued that since its btn vs defending blind he might put it in with a slightly larger range than usual, but calling and trying to get it in on lots of flops is not bad. ppl like to coldcall with all marginal overpairs/toppairs in 3bet pots.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: How do get Value from AA here?

not many players 4b/fold anymore unless they are on a complete bluff. If he has JJish and a K comes on the flop, then that will suck too. pushng&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;calling
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: How do get Value from AA here?

shove preflop
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