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Old 03-17-2007, 01:45 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: At least i\'m rich off sklansky buck$

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I don't play limit but isn't this kind of weak?

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A, J, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

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not to get into too much strategy but: normally, super weak, yes. i had a read though. this guy was very passive. his pf 3 bet narrowed his range to big pairs. once he raised the turn he has exactly KK or JJ. but he didn't cap the turn, and probably put me on AA at that point (even this guy could recognize i prob. don't have QT b/c of the pf cap). since the river didn't change anything for KK, i think he is less likely to have it when he raises. also, i don't think this guy ever caps the river w/KK, so when i 3 bet i'm always winning 1 when ahead and losing 2 when behind.

meh, it might have been horrible, though.

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I think your reasoning actually makes sence. But if 3-betting (and obv calling the cap) is "wrong" EV-wise its an extremely small error.
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Old 03-17-2007, 04:53 PM
Happytime Harry Happytime Harry is offline
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Default Re: At least i\'m rich off sklansky buck$

Venom and ludacris: no
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: At least i\'m rich off sklansky buck$

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Ad (full house, aces full of jacks).
Button has Js Jc (four of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 19.25 BB. </font>

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wtf raise that river, you have the 2nd nuts.

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I hope this is some sick levelling, because when I used to play minbet, I always hated posts like this. I'm pretty sure OP had a sick read (or the running bad got him quads-scared), but capping just because you have the 2nd nuts is stupid.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: At least i\'m rich off sklansky buck$

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I don't play limit but isn't this kind of weak?

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A, J, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

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not to get into too much strategy but: normally, super weak, yes. i had a read though. this guy was very passive. his pf 3 bet narrowed his range to big pairs. once he raised the turn he has exactly KK or JJ. but he didn't cap the turn, and probably put me on AA at that point (even this guy could recognize i prob. don't have QT b/c of the pf cap). since the river didn't change anything for KK, i think he is less likely to have it when he raises. also, i don't think this guy ever caps the river w/KK, so when i 3 bet i'm always winning 1 when ahead and losing 2 when behind.

meh, it might have been horrible, though.

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lol yes this is pretty terrible-- you have to lose all the minbetaments possible even though you think you're beat in hands like this. Thats why limit is stupid. Although in NL you also lose your money every time but whatever.

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Venom man you get worse.
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: At least i\'m rich off sklansky buck$

I'm more of a tournament player, but I take beats like this every day... I busted out of tourneys with aa 5 times in a row before getting it all in preflop
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