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Old 11-18-2007, 06:14 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($445)
Button ($484.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($24) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, Button calls $46.

Turn: ($144) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, Button calls $120.

River: ($384) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $253 (All-In)</font>,

Villain seems a solid player, he is waiting on multiple tables, but right now I might be his only opponent. He is a solid player, I don't think he is making many moves. I think I overplayed the hand and that I should just c/f turn. When he called on the turn, I was really afraid he caught a flush, but I guess I played with so many superaggressive villains like me in the past days that I couldn't believe he wouldn't move in with a flush draw on the flop. I was more worried about the straight. I pushed because I figured if he has like a lone 9, he will call but not bet and that I would call his river bet if he bets. The way I played the hand was idiotic.

I seriously think c/f turn is the best line here even though it may seem weak tight.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

Vinetou , if he were on a flush draw on the flop , then you gave him (98+120+253):46 or ~ 10.2:1 implied odds for his hand . He may have called you on a flush draw because he knew his implied odds would be great . Not to mention , the 5 of c's is an out for a player drawing to an open end straight draw .

The check-fold is a decent option on the turn .If the turn were a 3 of c's , I may check-call the turn and check-fold the river, depending on the size of the bets and reads .
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

i think ur line is fine c/f turn is rediculas imo id lead as you did and fold if raised as most solid players raise a flush there
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

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i think ur line is fine c/f turn is rediculas imo id lead as you did and fold if raised as most solid players raise a flush there

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And what do you do on the river if he just calls the turn which most people will do - slowplay a flush?
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:22 PM
KexChoklad123 KexChoklad123 is offline
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

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i think ur line is fine c/f turn is rediculas imo id lead as you did and fold if raised as most solid players raise a flush there

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And what do you do on the river if he just calls the turn which most people will do - slowplay a flush?

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It is always so easy to know the results of your hands. Since when "most" people slowplay a flush? Just because you lost this hand it does not mean you played it bad
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

I am just saying that what shat4brains said that people would raise a flush on the turn isn't true. Most people would slowplay a flush if they hit it.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

Anyone like donking the flop here? Such a draw heavy board that you don't really want to see a turn card IMO. B/3B would be a nice line and villain would have a really wide range for raising this flop (draws, over pairs, top pairs etc).
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

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Anyone like donking the flop here? Such a draw heavy board that you don't really want to see a turn card IMO. B/3B would be a nice line and villain would have a really wide range for raising this flop (draws, over pairs, top pairs etc).

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NO!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post12895327
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

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Anyone like donking the flop here? Such a draw heavy board that you don't really want to see a turn card IMO. B/3B would be a nice line and villain would have a really wide range for raising this flop (draws, over pairs, top pairs etc).

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If he checks behind with a draw and a draw comes on the turn, I probably lose less if he has a flush so I don't mind giving a free card. Plus, most villains bet their flush draw. They don't necessarilly push with it over a checkraise, but they bet it. Well, he had A6c.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: 400NLHUCASH two pair hand on a straight flush board

Trying to decide now if it was a beat, like MasterLj says, or a bad play, like jay shark says.
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