Very ugly spot w/ set vs. THE__D__RY in 50r

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That's a really horrible flop bet size from UTG into eight players, on that flop, with the whole table but one player in with a huge range. What possible good can come of it?

[cappla011]

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That's a really horrible flop bet size from UTG into eight players, on that flop, with the whole table but one player in with a huge range. What possible good can come of it?

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To entice an Ah-rag overshove?

But seriously, I don't know. I really don't know what would be the appropriate bet amount. But with seven players after me, and still in the rebuy stage of the tournament, on this draw-heavy board, shouldn't I expect that it's all going to get in on the flop regardless of what I bet?

But overall, I think the flop bet was too weak only considering the chance that 1 or 2 players flat call and they are given an easy turn card, but which I think is very rare considering the tournament/ # of draws/ # of players/ stack sizes.

Am I horribly wrong still?

[Steve Williams]

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shouldn't I expect that it's all going to get in on the flop regardless of what I bet?



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You may as well pot it yourself then [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Well, if the plan is to snap call a shove, then fine. But, no, I don't really like that plan because, IMO, people aren't playing all that loose at this stage with those stacks in the $50r. OK, the 3k stacks want to make a move, but you look very strong here (particularly if they are looking at A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) but you're not giving them any FE. I don't think a 6k stack generally takes the risk of being a 3k stack and paying extra vig for the reward of being a 10-12k stack. At least, that's my experience of the $50r.

Also, for the 6k+ stacks, most of them can't call with the hands that you want to call, or move in or whatever, because it's such a crowded pot.

It's an interesting flop spot but I think my point is that I don't think you can persuade anyone they have FE in this situation by betting small. If there were more 3k stacks (who just want to get in in with any reasonable equity), fine but there's only two.

All of this said, I'm not sure how I'd proceed here but I think generally I'd check and see what happens and who takes a stab. Bottom set doesn't feel like a very big hand OOP eight way agaisnt super wide ranges and, I'd be interested to see if others think I'm wrong, but I kind of think 7k is just fine at this stage, not because shipping in another $100 is the end of the world but because having 3k really sucks.

[Pudge714]