Baseball managers are vastly overrated

[Dominic]

Seriously, what do they do? Decide the line-up? Call for a bunt a few times a game? Walk out onto the field and motion for a lefty to come in?

What is it that makes Joe Torre worth $5 million a year, or more? How is his skill set when it comes to managing, any different from a decent high school baseball team coach?

Compare this to football head coaches. I think they're worth every penny and truly lead their team.

Baseball managers sit on their butt and decide who to play today. Okay, that's something...but really...is it that difficult?? Is their knowledge that vastly superior than any one of you who knows baseball?

The Emperor is naked, dammit, and no one is seeing it.

[vhawk01]

I think like 90% of SE posters already think this and say it often.

[Dominic]

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It'd be awesome if a Baseball General Manager came out and said something like this, hiring some unknown to manage their team for $75,000 a year.

Really, in a world where Joe Girardi can replace Joe Torre, it must mean the job is not so special.

[SuperUberBob]

A manager just has to perform the basic duties of a manager effectively. Anything on top of that is extra credit.

[stormstarter28]

Managers have little impact on actual games. Pretty much everyone knows this, and has for a while. My best guess is that owners who choose to pay 5 million for someone like Torre believe that managers can be excellent leaders/coaches to maximize the performance of their players.

[Dominic]

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Managers have little impact on actual games. Pretty much everyone knows this, and has for a while. My best guess is that owners who choose to pay 5 million for someone like Torre believe that managers can be excellent leaders/coaches to maximize the performance of their players.

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okay, this makes sense to me

[suzzer99]

How come I say something, someone else says the same damn thing, and they always get replied to? Always. I am a forum martyr.

[vhawk01]

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I think like 90% of SE posters already think this and say it often.

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It'd be awesome if a Baseball General Manager came out and said something like this, hiring some unknown to manage their team for $75,000 a year.

Really, in a world where Joe Girardi can replace Joe Torre, it must mean the job is not so special.

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Well, part of having a manager is having someone to talk to the media, and its also part of playing the game. And I dont mean baseball. If someone came out and paid some nobody 75k to run their team, they had ABSOLUTELY better win a [censored] of games, or fans are going to be PISSED. Even if its +EV from a winning standpoint (spend the money elsewhere) they simply cannot afford to be wrong.

But yeah I think that would be pretty sweet. Hard to know how the players would react though. Its entirely possible that the players think it matters, even if it doesnt. After all, players think they are on cold streaks or hot streaks even when they arent (or at least they say they do in interviews).

[metsandfinsfan]

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I think like 90% of SE posters already think this and say it often.

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It'd be awesome if a Baseball General Manager came out and said something like this, hiring some unknown to manage their team for $75,000 a year.

Really, in a world where Joe Girardi can replace Joe Torre, it must mean the job is not so special.

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girardi has managed, and has a degree from some ivy league school

[nutshot2]

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Really, in a world where Joe Girardi can replace Joe Torre, it must mean the job is not so special.

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this... makes no sense. if a manager doesn't mean anything, who cares if he's replacing joe torre?

sigh