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Old 11-05-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default First hand in a HU match

Obviously, I could post this in the Heads Up forum, but I'm not. This is literally our first hand at the table and he is completely unknown to me (no data mined stats, etc).

All converters I know about are being bad / slow / not working.

SHOOTAA has 5 seconds left to act
SHOOTAA posts the small blind of $3
Villain posts the big blind of $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SHOOTAA [7s 5c]
SHOOTAA raises to $18
Villain calls $12
*** FLOP *** [6d 7c 3d]
Villain checks
SHOOTAA bets $28
Villain calls $28
*** TURN *** [6d 7c 3d] [8h]
Villain bets $80
SHOOTAA calls $80
*** RIVER *** [6d 7c 3d 8h] [As]
Villain bets $200
SHOOTAA has 15 seconds left to act
SHOOTAA has requested TIME

Thoughts? Please don't just say call or fold, I would like you to explicate a hand range you put him on by the turn and river bets. Fwiw, the river 200 was bet quickly, if this effects your decision.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

Hands you beat that I think are in his range are like K5d 65/64/69/35/random bluff calling here looks thin.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

and add 44/55
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

fold
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

Did villain have a big stack? 100bb? Fold barring something else... if he's bluffing you will be be broke soon.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:20 AM
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Did villain have a big stack? 100bb? Fold barring something else... if he's bluffing you will be be broke soon.

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What?
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

How many bb does villain have?
I vote fold.
If he is bluffing you will have his stack soon.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

I'm just having a very tough time putting him on a hand, it would literally have to be 87, which i think very rarely calls OOP preflop and plays the flop/turn this way, or an AdXd hand that plays the hand this way (no raising as semi-bluff), and quickly value bets the river.

Can anyone name a hand(s) he has that beat us? I may be giving him too much credit for being a decent HU player who knows that there are all small cards out there and that 15 outters are good, but CMON!

edit: T9 is about the only hand I can come up with.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

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How many bb does villain have?
I vote fold.
If he is bluffing you will have his stack soon.

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The EV of future hands shouldn't affect the EV of calling/folding in this one. Right?
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: First hand in a HU match

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How many bb does villain have?
I vote fold.
If he is bluffing you will have his stack soon.

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The EV of future hands shouldn't affect the EV of calling/folding in this one. Right?

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It definitely can, but I don't think this is one of those spots as its a fairly substantial pot, and I would like to win it for that reason... which I cannot do by folding.
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