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Old 10-08-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: I flop a set on an all spade board...

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well in the future just bet because really, do check with anything else here?


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red KK?

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I don't think I'm ever checking this flop 3 handed
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: I flop a set on an all spade board...story of my life...

red KK?


no, he had two spades for the flush...
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: I flop a set on an all spade board...

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well in the future just bet because really, do check with anything else here?


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red KK?

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I don't think I'm ever checking this flop 3 handed

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Not trying to put you in the well, but what about Black KK?
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: I flop a set on an all spade board...

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well in the future just bet because really, do check with anything else here?


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red KK?

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I don't think I'm ever checking this flop 3 handed

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I actually like checking red KK here vs. tricky opponents, because that way I avoid getting outplayed by someone semibluffraising me w/ a naked spade. In HEPFAP they recommend checking decent but not good made hands on flushy boards in early position precisely for this reason.

Also, OP should lead flop, and only CR flop if he is relatively confident it will get bet. As played, no point in not CRing turn. Since villain 3 bet, we can call, and CC any nonspade river. Obv we CR if the board pairs. Bet/3bet is tempting, but CRing will perform decently when he holds a flush, and magnificently when he holds a lower fullhouse, so I lean towards CRing most opponents in my games.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: I flop a set on an all spade board...

The way its played, don't you think he's under-represented his hand. I think you could easily be up against AK with the king of spades looking for a free showdown/drawing to the nuts if behind. Does anyone 4-bet the turn, then, if no spade on the river bet/fold? Too aggro?
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: I flop a set on an all spade board...

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The way its played, don't you think he's under-represented his hand. I think you could easily be up against AK with the king of spades looking for a free showdown/drawing to the nuts if behind. Does anyone 4-bet the turn, then, if no spade on the river bet/fold? Too aggro?

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Way to aggro in this case, villain actually had two spades. This was actually my read, however I have been running bad all summer. I figured what are the chances of him having two spades? Especially, since I had run into this same exact hand about an hour earlier, and just checked along, and a different villain had spades as well, and I had a set of nines that didn't improve to a full house, for the second time in an hour.

Can I be any more of a loser? I even took last place in my office football pool this week, for three weeks in a row.

I have to go back and read Malmuth's "Gambling Theory and Other Topics." I know my luck has to even out somewhere.
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