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Old 07-21-2007, 01:31 AM
stan ivey stan ivey is offline
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2/4 6max

villain is bad, but nothing too specific, just too loose

villain limps in MP, SB folds, i check Kc6c in BB

flop (12): Ac 5c 4d

i bet 10, villain calls

turn (32): Ad

i bet 25, villain raises to 60, i call

river (153): As

i check, villain bets 90, i call ?



looks ok right??? am i completely misreading his hand?
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:32 AM
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He thinks any pair is the nuts here, you put him on 67 exactly I guess.
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:34 AM
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He thinks any pair is the nuts here, you put him on 67 exactly I guess.

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what no lol
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:34 AM
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I really don't understand your reasoning for a call.
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:43 AM
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Pretty terrible card for him to bluff raise on...
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:56 AM
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Pretty terrible card for him to bluff raise on...

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and no one ever does that.
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:18 AM
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ok, i put him on either Ax or a busted draw. hes fishy yes but i dont think he ever value bets a pair on the river, esp not pair + fd that missed. and thus i beat every draw that missed that bluffs this river.

i just think he bluffs this river far more often than he value bets anything that isnt Ax

and theres a ton of draws that missed
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:19 AM
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most debatable part imo is turn call
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:24 AM
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man dude i don't think so. i'm the king of call downs but i think this is far fetched at best. the first thing is him raising the turn, where NO one bluffs that turn, the second part is that the ace slows people down soooooooooo much. so if he wouldn't raise a turn bet with a draw, and this river looks scary for people to bluff at, i think a call is a thin thin reach.

of course we all agree your hand is the same as 22 here, but that jus dont matta
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:46 AM
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ok i got the bet sizing all wrong the pot was smaller, does that change anything?

Hand #1201011978001132: Amsterdam (6-max) 11978
Seat 2: pokrmastr ($507.20 in chips)
Seat 6: teutonicking ($622.45 in chips)
Seat 9: JOE POKER 71 ($392.00 in chips)
Seat 10: Starscream ($758.70 in chips)
JOE POKER 71: posts big blind $4
Dealt to JOE POKER 71 [ Kc 6c ]
Starscream: folds
pokrmastr: calls $4
teutonicking: folds
JOE POKER 71: checks
*** FLOP *** [ 5c Ac 4d ]
JOE POKER 71: bets $6
pokrmastr: calls $6
*** TURN *** [ Ah ]
JOE POKER 71: bets $15
pokrmastr: raises to $46
JOE POKER 71: calls $31
*** RIVER *** [ As ]
JOE POKER 71: checks
pokrmastr: bets $60
JOE POKER 71: calls $60
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