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Old 09-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

yes
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

Unless he has a history of 3betting you light or squeezing a lot, this is pretty standard.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

it sucks but yes
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

Yup
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

What do I do with QQ here then?
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

fold

as a general rule, AK is more valuable preflop than QQ.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

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fold

as a general rule, AK is more valuable preflop than QQ.

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can you elaborate a bit? I know that AK you can 4/bet and 4/bet shove easier than QQ, thereby increasing FE significantly, but against bad players, isn't QQ better to have since you're usually going to be like 80-20 vs a 50/50 drawing hand when you face the flop?
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

12/8...fold
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:05 PM
PrimogenitoX PrimogenitoX is offline
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

And what is the standard line with KK in this spot?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:17 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL600-Super Standard PF?

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yes

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QFT

I'd fold QQ, too.

With KK and AA, I'd call.

I suppose I might fold KK if I had a long enough history with the guy that pushed to put him exactly on aces, but I wouldn't tell anybody about it.
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