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Old 09-15-2007, 04:30 PM
rzk rzk is offline
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Default i fold TPTK - again

SB is 53/11/1.0
UTG is 55/7/1.1

can i fold here or is it too weak? flop play ok?


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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:45 PM
exlka exlka is offline
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

ouch
i could not fold this, since there are many utg hands you can beat

against 2 guys i would usually put in a raise on the flop
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:02 PM
Wolfram Wolfram is offline
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

I would raise the flop.

But I do think you're toast on the turn. UTG's smoothcall on the flop + raise on the turn stinks to high heaven of a slowplay. The trouble is that he might have a K and suspect that you're weaker than you are because you didn't put in a raise on the flop. So raising the flop will give you more value when you're ahead and it will ake the hand easier to play on the big streets.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

i was thinking about raising the flop too. but i decided this was one of those scenarios where it's better to wait till the turn since our equity will change dramatically once we see the turn card. is this concept not applicable here?
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:23 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

sorry for the brevity but i play this hand the same way.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:44 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

I play it the same. Raising the flop is bad, Id prefer to see if a club comes on the turn before putting in my action. It also lets you get away cheaper when this happens.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

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sorry for the brevity but i play this hand the same way.

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Old 09-15-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

I couldn't call two bets on the turn. That's a bit much.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

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Old 09-16-2007, 11:29 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: i fold TPTK - again

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I play it the same. Raising the flop is bad, Id prefer to see if a club comes on the turn before putting in my action. It also lets you get away cheaper when this happens.

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