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Old 11-23-2007, 05:37 AM
LOwrestling2001 LOwrestling2001 is offline
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Default Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

Villain is 34/20/2 over like 80 hands or something. I called preflop this one time for deception. However, i find myself in a little trouble on this flop because his range is now so wide...what do we do here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($84.50)
BB ($68.80)
UTG ($303.70)
MP ($116.60)
CO ($134.25)
Hero ($115.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($6.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $113.4</font>, MP calls $91.40.

Turn: ($233.30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($233.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $233.30
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:40 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

preflop is atrocious

post is w/e once you get there vs this guy.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:52 AM
JFsports JFsports is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

I think preflop is fine sometimes, but not against a minraise. It's too likely the blinds will come in.

I prefer just calling his flop 3-bet rather than shoving
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:17 AM
Aces0Kingz Aces0Kingz is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

im not calling preflop on the button for deception with JJ here we already have a wide range even if we raise. Raise it Up!!
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Mr_tanou Mr_tanou is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

lol @ calling preflop and going all-in in in a tiny pot on the flop.
Raise pf please.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:12 AM
ImpulseKid ImpulseKid is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

Getting it all in is pretty bad. You have absolutely no idea where you stand in the hand and there is only $6.50 in the pot going to the flop. I dont mind calling in pos with JJ pre but as has been said its not good to do against a min raise. Also against a villain as loose as this id usually reraise pre to get an idea of where i stand.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:45 AM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

really bad preflop. you can't flat call the minraise. defo raise it up here.

as played it's ok postflop i spose, although i would just call his 3bet and proceed with caution from then on
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:47 AM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

also note: the title of your thread sucks. it leads to biased thinking from the posters.

if you said something like 'evaluate my line' then you will get better answers.

we basically know you lost the hand, unless you are tricking us.

provide a post with all the info you had, but with no info about what the results were
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:51 PM
LOwrestling2001 LOwrestling2001 is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t i dump the overpairs?!!?

oh...yea that's right, i didn't take that into consideration, doh.
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