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Old 07-03-2007, 04:19 PM
wildzer0 wildzer0 is offline
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Default 50nl - Value on this river?

Villain is 55/6/2 over about 50 hands. I've been working on making thinner value bets lately, is this a good spot?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $66.40
BB: $48.55
UTG: $29.50
MP: $37.80
CO: $19.60
Hero (BTN): $50.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $2.50, CO folds

Flop: ($7.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, MP calls $5.00

Turn: ($17.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($17.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.75</font>,
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

I think a call here is better, only hand calling that raise is a better hand.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

I like a minraise better as it has a better chance of getting called by something you beat like KJ or AT. Personally, Im calling though. Maybe its a small leak in my game but I dont like to get too crazy with hands where i improve after I have kind of lost control of the hand.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

With someone this loose though, isn't his range wide enough that I get value out of 7x and Tx hands?
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

I think the raise is too big. Dont mind a raise though. Mor like $15
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

a lot of hands which would call your large raise probably beat you.
a raise to 14 would be nice if you think he would pay you off here, but im a nit and proobably call a lot there.he just played it too weird):
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

raise is too big you're hand is now a bluff
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

i'd just call, but if you're gonna raise, don't raise so much. as people point out above me, he's gonna fold about everything, so it's not excactly a value-raise anymore... more like a bluff.

oh, and remember: bad players are allowed to get good cards too, and they LOVE to slowplay... so i'd definately leave some money behind... raising to 6 could get some value though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

I just call, a raise thins his range to mostly hands which beat you. Villain has to be particularly poor to make a mistake against you with a river raise like this.
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - Value on this river?

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I think the raise is too big. Dont mind a raise though. Mor like $15

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I actually like making minraises in these spots. The coordinated look of the board probably makes me chicken out and flat call though. Don't want to see a connector that made a 2pair.

Edit: forget the part about the connectedness. I don't think it's that grave. I have looked at the board again. I still think the raise is too big and will only be called by a slowplayed hand or a hand that was helped on the river more than you.
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