50nl - Getting it in w/ QQ preflop

[wildzer0]

I'm never sure when to get it in with QQ preflop. Here are a few examples from today, any thoughts on general strategy regarding QQ preflop would be appreciated.


Villain is 23/8 over 80 hands

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $51.65
BB: $49.25
Hero (UTG): $59.75
MP: $36.15
CO: $56.00
BTN: $29.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $5.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $51.65</font>, Hero...


Villain is 22/17 over 150 hands

(LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $37.00
BB: $36.30
UTG: $51.50
MP: $68.85
CO: $51.30
Hero (BTN): $52.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $22.00</font>, Hero


Villain is 20/19 over 80 hands

SB: $52.70
BB: $27.05
UTG: $49.60
CO: $33.65
Hero (BTN): $56.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $49.60</font>, Hero

[Vyse]

Calling AI with QQ/AK is suicide v full stacks in my experience. I lost a ton of BI doing it when I first started out.

At 50 NL it's probably easier to get away with it, since there are more thinking players and such. I'm snapfolding all hands FWIW.

[Perk76]

Hand 1. Fold. In hand one, just call his 3bet from the SB, you have position, and he made it a miniraise. He has an 8 for pfr, which is low. Would imagine he isnt pulling anything here.

Hands 2. I think this one is a fold, his raise wants you to call, trying to get the stacks in. He is UTG also.

Hand 3. This one is closer than the other 2 IMO. I think that him just pushing over your raise is kinda odd. I think you will see mid-pp's, 1010, JJ, AK, AQ enough times for this one to be a potential call. I probably fold this in the heat of battle, but I havent ran this one through pokerstove.

IMO.

[C4LL4W4Y]

Hand 1: 4b is a spew against a 23/8 (unless he's resteal happy out of the blinds), call his 3b and take a flop in position.

Hand 2: Bleh, fold to a standard TAG. [censored] spot but I don't see him doing this with worse than AK, or JJ.

Hand 3: Same as 2.

In 2 and 3 it seems as if you're not sure whether or not to give the UTG preflop 2b/4b any credit. Against TAG's with those stats, I personally would until I had reason not to.

[C4LL4W4Y]

Yeah actually hand 3 looks closer, I didn't notice 2 was a 4b and 3 was a 4b shove.

[XHitman014]

Those last two hands...are they the same villian or on the same table? If so you need to fire up a new table &amp; practice good table selection.

I fold the 1st since he seems really tight, the other two are much more difficult since you didn't mention any reads other than PT #s. Any idea what type of hands he's opening UTG with?

[relativity_x]

Hand 1, I think you can call the 3 bet/fold to 5 bet. His range is pretty narrow there with a 8 PFR.

The last two are tricky because you're getting 4 bet from utg raisers. They both have pretty TAG stats for 6-max. I think you'll see AK a lot more in their range versus the first hand villain's range.

fwiw, I'd have trouble folding all three, but I think hand 1 can definitely fold to 5 bet from 8 PFR. Hand 2 looks very scary with just the bet to 22, so I can fold. Hand 3 is a call with villain having AK/KK/TT+ there.

[wildzer0]

Cardrunners screwed me up this week [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I usually snapfold all of thse, but I happened to watch a video where they say folding QQ preflop is a big mistake at 50nl. I'll just say I got it in in all 3 cases, the hands were, in no particular order, AA, KK, and AK

it is nice posting easy questions for once though and getting lots of responses [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Perk76]

Seems like the betting patterns told you what they had! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Did you win hand 3?