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Old 08-27-2007, 04:38 AM
reup reup is offline
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

no stats on villain? i usually bet like $14 on the flop and just fire again on the turn 'safe' card against unknown here, folding to a raise. not too sure whats up with the c/r but if you have a read you didn't share it could be nice.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

I don't like the c/r on the turn. I know it's possible he might be on a diamond draw but the possibility that you are outkicked makes it a bad spot for the cr in my opinion.

I'd just c/c the turn and prob c/c the river. I like this move a lot more with AK/AQ FWIW
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Old 08-27-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

You've got to think about how you'd want the money to go in. This is not the way that should make you happy.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

rio = reversed implied odds

i b/f turn w/ block bet on river

something in $14 $24, $30
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

I agree with making it like 14 on the flop and B/F-ing the turn. Also I think c/Ring the turn is terrible.

Playing your hand straightforward gets you max value here. C/Ring just blows him off worse hands and maximizes your losses against better ones.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

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er, think about the cr before you do it? and decide to lead instead?

don't like the flop pot here either, way more likely to fold worse than an ace, it focuses his range on hands better than yours.

[/ QUOTE ]his flop calling range on this board is wide

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even so, it would be even wider if you bet less, and even if it isn't, it really makes a big difference in terms of stack awkwardness on the river, no matter how you play it.

the stacks are pretty perfect for a bet flop 2/3, bet turn 2/3, c/f river, or some variant line that gets two 2/3 bets in and leaves plenty of room to not commit.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

if his flop range is so wide and he bets too much why dont u lead flop and turn then check river to him?
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

why are you checking the river to fold it?
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

getting a stack in on this board with your hand is probably not +EV, considering you only beat A3-A6, A8, and you have no read. what worse hands is he calling a river c/r with?
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:48 PM
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You've got to think about how you'd want the money to go in. This is not the way that should make you happy.

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This was the purpose of the post, to illustrate how poorly I setup my bets.
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