greasefire turn, greasefire river

[Maulik]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $446.95
Hero (BB): $251.00
UTG: $204.00
MP: $260.10
CO: $83.50
BTN: $85.00

Reads: <font color="blue">hand i observed while playing against him
he opens btn, sb (tag) 3b he calls w/ position
flop: A44 sb chks, he pots sb shoves
btn had AK

so he's a tag, who bets too much when checked to.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, SB calls $1.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, SB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, SB calls $23.00

Turn: ($82) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $54.00</font>, SB calls $54.00

River: ($190) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $100.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $100.00 returned to SB

Pot Size: $190.00 ($3 Rake)

[pineapple888]

I don't much see the point of the turn bet in position. Do you have any reason to think you are ahead, and what's going away here, that bet/called the flop? Just check behind, then puke and fold the river.

[FGators]

Flop raise isn't my favorite but it's not horrible with all the draws out there.

The turn bet is awful. The flush got there, he called your flop raise, and you are sitting there with top pair solid kicker which is mariginal. This guy isn't folding KQ and has the flush or possibly the straight a lot here. It's a clear pot control check. Not to mention your bet sizing of $54 is kind of in the no man's land of bet sizes. It's like you don't want to check but you want to bet and are lost of a size because you don't know where he is at. So you bet an amount that doesn't really charge the draws enough.

Routine river fold; you are like never good here.

[Maulik]

turn: I think I'm getting the only K that is better than mine to fold, if he has it. In that regard, it's awful, but if he has KXs I'm charging him twice, once for his kicker another for his bare draw.

I'm not convinced bet/fold is awful on the turn.

[SABR42]

Check turn.

[Isura]

Turn bet is pretty bad( its pretty much a bluff when a tag takes this line against you).

[pineapple888]

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turn: I think I'm getting the only K that is better than mine to fold, if he has it. In that regard, it's awful, but if he has KXs I'm charging him twice, once for his kicker another for his bare draw.

I'm not convinced bet/fold is awful on the turn.

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He'd have to be a total idiot to take this line, then call your turn bet with Kx that isn't two-pair. I really think you have to discount that holding quite significantly.