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Old 11-29-2007, 01:01 AM
Somekid Somekid is offline
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Default $11 NLTRN: Top pair gets all-in on the turn

Very early, so no solid read. My opponent seemed loose, but I didn't know much else.

When I get c/r on the flop, I know I'm probably ahead...is calling the c/r okay, or should I 3-bet? I was torn between 3-bet the flop, or playing the hand as I did (getting AI on a safe turn)

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Hero (t1440)
BB (t1560)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t120) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t160</font>, Hero calls t80.

Turn: (t440) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t260</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1220</font>
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:21 AM
tmcdmck tmcdmck is offline
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN: Top pair gets all-in on the turn

i like a 3bet on the flop if your plan is to get it in because, quite frankly, there are very very few safe turns (even if they never do this with air, 3s 5s 6s 7s 8s Ts Js and Qs are definite scare cards, and any card could pair their kicker if they have one pair).

the only time i like calling the flop is if they are a massive dirty bluffer, but even then i think it is only just better than a 3bet on the flop due to the copious number of scare cards
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:39 AM
theordinaryboy theordinaryboy is offline
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN: Top pair gets all-in on the turn

i agree with tmc, if the flop was K83 and you held KQ then sure just call the 3 bet and raise the turn all-in. However, way to many scare cards so decide am i playing for stack here and if so 4 bet that flop.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN: Top pair gets all-in on the turn

Hmm, my concern with 3-betting against the c/r was that then we have an even bigger pot and I could be facing a scare card. But...I guess that's not much different from the way I played it.

So I guess the question is how big to 3-bet the flop. I want to push this flop, but that probably won't maximize value. Maybe I should 3-bet to about 500 and shove any turn.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:25 PM
theordinaryboy theordinaryboy is offline
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN: Top pair gets all-in on the turn

pretty much yeah, maybe like 550-600, against some players a shove is fine too. Ones that overvalue hands and would call with 9T or 76
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: $11 NLTRN: Top pair gets all-in on the turn

Those check min raises suck. I never respect them as actual strength and take the rest of the hand slowly.
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