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Old 11-17-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Did I just price myself in ?

20/180 and I've just been moved to the table less than 5 hands ago and folded everything. I have T1800 @ 50/100. Blinds will be 100/200 in less than 5 minutes. BB and MP and both sitting out during this hand for whatever reason.

I open Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1 to T400, guy to my left insta shoves for T1100 total, folds back to me.

Sry if super standard [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

You are getting nearly 3:1 so i would say yes you did
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

yes call as played but why open so much? just open to 250...if a short stack pushes call...if a bigger stack reraises or pushes it's easier to fold
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

a. fold preflop
b. call now
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:18 AM
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yes call as played but why open so much? just open to 250...if a short stack pushes call...if a bigger stack reraises or pushes it's easier to fold

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Forgive me if this sounds condescending (I don't spend a whole lot of time on tournaments), but how is raising 1.5x the BB OOP against, at least typically speaking of the 20/180's, opponents who are too loose that cannot be c/b a good idea?
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

raising 1.5 is awful. its a min raise and itj ust makes math and odds so awkward nad the right play so questionable
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:32 AM
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a. fold preflop
b. call now

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I don't think I'm all that interested in discussing PF. With two dead spots, especially the BB this is a raise. There is almost zero chance I get squeezed, waaaay to early for that.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

if blinds are 50/100 then 250 is a 2.5BB raise. This gives you the chance to fold if someone comes over the top of your raise. By raising to 400 you pretty much can't fold as that's a significant amount of your stack in there already.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

With less than 20 big blinds in my stack, I doubt I would be messing around with QJs, especially in early position. I might try to open from the CO or button, but not here. I just noticed that two players were sitting out, which I suppose could affect that decision, however.

It looks like you're getting a little better than 2:1, so I would call.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:09 PM
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You are getting nearly 3:1 so i would say yes you did

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call try to get lucky with that hand, he might of hand a worse hand
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