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12-18-2006, 02:18 PM
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Learning Curve
I just started using Sharkscope and I have noticed that I almost never see players who were bad at one point and then got good. I play the Stars 15 turbos and it seems like the graph for every player I see is either a fairly constant upward slope or a fairly constant downward slope; i.e., people started winning and kept winning or started losing and kept losing. This is somewhat discouraging since my graph started on the downside, though it has at least stopped going down.
Has anybody else noticed this and, if so, any thoughts on why it is? 
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12-18-2006, 02:21 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
most bad players dont think about their game and improve, good players do?
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#3
12-18-2006, 02:21 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
I think you're over-thinking it. Most people start down and stay down because they don't work on their game. It's not because of some inability to get better.
If you work on your game, your graph will start going up. It's really that simple.
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12-18-2006, 02:22 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
[ QUOTE ]
I just started using Sharkscope and I have noticed that I almost never see players who were bad at one point and then got good. I play the Stars 15 turbos and it seems like the graph for every player I see is either a fairly constant upward slope or a fairly constant downward slope; i.e., people started winning and kept winning or started losing and kept losing. This is somewhat discouraging since my graph started on the downside, though it has at least stopped going down. Has anybody else noticed this and, if so, any thoughts on why it is? [/ QUOTE ] How long has sharkscope been tracking players? If it's only been for a few months then this shouldn't be that unusual. The only people you would expect to see drastic improvement from are those that just started playing at the same time sharkscope started tracking players.
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#6
12-18-2006, 02:48 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
perhaps its just sample, meaning the ppl that youre looking at dont have a lot of games or the ones that do, you just havent looked at enough of them to find one? just speculating i havent really looked in depth into this, but most people suck [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#7
12-18-2006, 09:10 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
Thanks for the replies. I think the answer is a combination of (1) most bad players do not improve, and (2) most good players were already good by the time Sharkscope came along.
As to no. 1, I am truly amazed by the results of some players. Some have lost 10-15k and played thousands of SNGs and their rate of losing remains constant over time. One would think that somebody who was interested enough to play thousands of SNGs would eventually try to figure out how to stop losing.
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#8
12-18-2006, 09:17 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the replies. I think the answer is a combination of (1) most bad players do not improve, and (2) most good players were already good by the time Sharkscope came along. As to no. 1, I am truly amazed by the results of some players. Some have lost 10-15k and played thousands of SNGs and their rate of losing remains constant over time. One would think that somebody who was interested enough to play thousands of SNGs would eventually try to figure out how to stop losing. [/ QUOTE ] For alot of people it is about fun. They are not out there to acheive a 15% roi, they are playing to gamble. Most work regular jobs. If you made say 50k a year, a 1k loss over a year would not be a big deal.
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#9
12-18-2006, 10:17 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
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most bad players dont think about their game and improve, good players do? [/ QUOTE ] I like this reply. It makes sence to me that it wouldn't really matter where you start, but that players who continuously try to improve their game become gradually better, while those who don't will continually decline. In other words, it's not so much what skill level a player has but rather how dedicated they are to improving their game.
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#10
12-18-2006, 10:25 PM
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Re: Learning Curve
A lot of people underistimate the importance of running good. When I first started I was bad, but won money because I was running really well. This convinced me that I had some skill and when I started to lose ego drove me to keep playing and learning so I got better, and became a winning player. If someone like me started off running average/bad and lost at the start I would've given up a lot more easily and I never would've improved. This has at least some impact on people's sharkscopes as after the beginning upswing people are much more likely to become good and have a long term rise on their graph.
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