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#321
08-03-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
There is $10 dead in the pot when it is to him to call. He called 15.50 and won $117.15 + the $3 that he had put in the pot.
$120.15/15.5 = 7.75, so it is barely -EV if no one else calls. He is the first caller, so it isn't going to be the only caller all the time. If another player calls he is getting 8.75x and if all 3 of the others call he is getting over 10x even if only you stacks off against him. Had he been the last to call, then it would be slightly bad, given how the hand played out it is really just a high variance breakeven play. But his call is not horrible, the only way it is really horrile is if one of the guys left to call is likely to reraise again. |
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#322
08-03-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
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There is $10 dead in the pot when it is to him to call. He called 15.50 and won $117.15 + the $3 that he had put in the pot. $120.15/15.5 = 7.75, so it is barely -EV if no one else calls. He is the first caller, so it isn't going to be the only caller all the time. If another player calls he is getting 8.75x and if all 3 of the others call he is getting over 10x even if only you stacks off against him. Had he been the last to call, then it would be slightly bad, given how the hand played out it is really just a high variance breakeven play. But his call is not horrible, the only way it is really horrile is if one of the guys left to call is likely to reraise again. [/ QUOTE ] its moderately horrible because on a 7xxxx board AA/KK still has 18% equity |
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#323
08-03-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
Ah, interesting to hear.
Not too mad, I thought for sure he had QQ+ because I didn't realize he had limped in, so I figured it was a safe flop. Oh well, hot streak had to end sometime. |
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#324
08-03-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
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I'm back from Japan, you guys can stop missing me now -- what a trip. Did I miss anything? Also, I just saw a hilarious pic in BBV about on of our mods:  [/ QUOTE ] Hahahah! Awesome! |
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#326
08-03-2007, 08:00 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
it's my understanding that it's when an oop caller bets into a raiser, usually for a small amount though i don't think that really is a requirement
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#328
08-03-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
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it's my understanding that it's when an oop caller bets into a raiser, usually for a small amount though i don't think that really is a requirement [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. So why is that a bad play? (I do it sometimes obv) |
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#329
08-03-2007, 08:04 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
It's not ALWAYS a bad play, but usually the people who do it regularly are bad...
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#330
08-03-2007, 08:05 PM
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Re: ** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **
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[ QUOTE ] it's my understanding that it's when an oop caller bets into a raiser, usually for a small amount though i don't think that really is a requirement [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. So why is that a bad play? (I do it sometimes obv) [/ QUOTE ] Its not unless the person is a donk and is doing it for a donkish reasons. |
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