Flopped bottom two against a 2p2 Tag

Chipspin · #1 10-16-2007, 08:28 PM

Regular loose game at the Oaks 15. Directly to my right is Bdaddy, a TAG who posts occasionally and we even frequently IM each other from work (what else is work good for?) about hands we played the night before.

PF: Three limpers, Bdaddy completes in the SB and I check the BB with 76o.

Flop: Kh7h6x, two hearts.
Bdaddy bets, I raise, all fold to Bdaddy who 3-bets, I 4-bet, he 5-bets, I?

I can't think of one hand I'm ahead of here. Even 9h8h I think he just calls the 4th bet instead of 5-betting OOP...

n.s. · #2 10-16-2007, 09:20 PM

I don't think I'd 4-bet on the flop. Your hand is effectively face-up (bottom two is pretty much the same as TPGK here) and he is still pushing hard OOP. Even if he just has a monster draw (OESD + FD), you are only barely ahead. His hand really feels like a set.

I think I'd just call the flop 3-bet and re-evaluate on the turn.

*TT* · #3 10-16-2007, 09:23 PM

its common to see someone with a hand suck as Qh6h or 4h5h play the same way that the villain did.

MitchL · #4 10-16-2007, 09:30 PM

I dont like your 4bet either unless he is spewy which I dont think Bdaddy is.

Anacardo · #5 10-16-2007, 09:46 PM

TT,

I really feel it should be pronounced 'Tuh-Tuh.'

n.s. · #6 10-16-2007, 09:52 PM

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its common to see someone with a hand suck as Qh6h or 4h5h play the same way that the villain did.

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Sure, I see donkeys all the time who will automatically put in max action on the flop with any flush draw, but this is a 2p2er playing against his friend whose play he respects. Unless they have a history of playing each other really tricky, I doubt that he's going crazy there with just a heart draw.

4h5h is about 50-50 to beat our bottom two, and if he's got overcards too (like 8h9h), then villain is actually a small favorite.

*TT* · #7 10-17-2007, 12:48 AM

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TT,

I really feel it should be pronounced 'Tuh-Tuh.'

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Cardo - I didn't chose my secondary nickname, we can blame MeghanR for that one.

2handed · #8 10-17-2007, 01:08 AM

I like calling the 3bet then sometimes raising blank turn.
My frequency of raising the turn would be inversely proportional to his TAGacity.

Anacardo · #9 10-17-2007, 01:10 AM

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TT,

I really feel it should be pronounced 'Tuh-Tuh.'

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Cardo - I didn't chose my secondary nickname, we can blame MeghanR for that one.

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That's my point. Isn't 'Tuh-Tuh' what she says?

*TT* · #10 10-17-2007, 01:37 AM

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TT,

I really feel it should be pronounced 'Tuh-Tuh.'

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Cardo - I didn't chose my secondary nickname, we can blame MeghanR for that one.

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That's my point. Isn't 'Tuh-Tuh' what she says?

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but when she sends me love letters behind DaveR's back its Ta Ta. Its not my fault she has a retarded pronunciation [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]