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Old 10-16-2007, 08:44 AM
eMbAh eMbAh is offline
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

I would give up
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:40 AM
DinkinFlicka DinkinFlicka is offline
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

Tell him that you know he knows your cards.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

It does matter if he knows that you know or not. Certainly if he knows that you know you can't do any better than just pushbotting preflop. If he doesn't know that you know then (a) telling him is a mistake in terms of EV (b) you *might* be able to do slightly better by playing some postflop & by calling down with bottom pair hands sometimes
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

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Tell him that you know he knows your cards.

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FAIL
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:58 PM
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I think you need to push/fold preflop. Preflop equities tend to be close to 50%. Once a flop comes these equities move away from the middle, towards the edges. Since he can see your cards this is very bad news for you.

The vast majority of his equity will be on the interval (33, 67) preflop. On the flop his equities will expand to the interval (5, 95). (I'm just estimating here.) Getting it in preflop limits his edge.

You should take a similar approach if you are outclassed.

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I agree with this.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

I think out strategy should be to make a mediocre hand after the flop, and checkcall with it for our whole stack. Something like bottom pair. Maybe set up a pattern where we CC bottom pair on flop, and fold on turn, and then reverse that on him when he shoves again.

Ironically, we should be checkfolding all our good made hands, even bottom set.

betting is retarded unless we have big hands and wanna just take it down or BIG draws in which case he don't mind much getting our shoves called.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:48 AM
CrustyFace CrustyFace is offline
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

I'd push every hand and try and get lucky. He would't call something that he is behind so you have to come from behind to win.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:59 AM
Abbaddabba Abbaddabba is offline
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

obvious answer has been overlooked.

kill the clock each and every hand to increase blinds. while you're deepish. ideally, you stick it out until you're 4-5bb deep where autoshoving is nearly correct.


until you get there, play only with big pairs, raise enough so that it's almost incorrect for him to call with anything. always fold to an all in preflop with kings/queens, because he will never expect you to fold a big pair and can only be value shoving. if he does call though, bet 2/3rds of the pot and fold to big raises if the board is safe, call if the board is very scary.

as the blinds get bigger, you should start shoving with some quality hands that are unlikely to be dominated. not expecting to be called - but rather, expecting that he is unable to call you - and therefor playing to pick up the blinds. when you are 10-15bb deep, add in AQ and AK to your shove range. play big pairs similarly to how you did earlier.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

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until you get there, play only with big pairs, raise enough so that it's almost incorrect for him to call with anything.

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Strange, I only get dealt big pairs about 2.5% of hands, so I'd expect to have blinded away using this strategy. Especially as when you raise, you'll not get incorrect calls, and big pairs are bad hands to suck out on someone with.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: How would you play at the final table against a known superuser?

I still like the 'calling down light with a hand he doesn't think I'll call with' strategy. Bluffing big is where this guy actually goofs
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