200/400 against Nenad Medic difficult river decision

[fatgirl_lover]

IAmNit, pot control, see matt flynns book for coverage of this. Chaoslord, one big thing you have going is that a flush draw comes on the turn, and misses on the river. still though think the board is too bad to bet

[leatherass]

if you don't mind me asking what was your plan if he shoved on your turn bet?

[Chaoslord]

pot control is correct and if he shoves turn i snapcall cuz he can have a lot of draws my raise looks like a (semi)bluff and i cannot see him checking a strong hand like a set twice on this dangerous board

[all_in_lam]

what do you guys think of Nenad's river check OOP?

[0evg0]

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if you don't mind me asking what was your plan if he shoved on your turn bet?

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either:

a) fist pump/call

or

b) call/fist pump

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I also think he value bets most of the hands that are ahead of you, especially with that river card where he will not expect you to value bet light considering your turn call.

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i like this a lot

[mecbluefugate]

another question: not being sarcastic or anything, but why doesn't anyone say fold PF? i'm assuming it is because the OP is good enough to show a profit playing hands like J8s?

[NNNNOOOOONAN]

balance

[Chaoslord]

he was opening a ton of hands and i had a solid image. i figured the likelyhood of him having a hand that can call a reraise out of position not very high and if he calls we are a little deep, i have position and a very disguised hand. but obviously most of the time i fold these type of hands preflop against a raise

[jfish]

i saw results, but i agree with krantz. im torn between shoving and underbetting on river.

[ahnuld]

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what do you guys think of Nenad's river check OOP?

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considering if he shoves we will fold most (or all) worse hands and call with all better check is the only thing he can do.