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Old 08-01-2007, 04:48 PM
The Vookster The Vookster is offline
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Default Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand (Fixed hand typo)

10 game live hand at the MGM in Vegas... I have just sat down so no reads. 1/2 no limit. I am in middle position with a Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]


HERO: $170
BTN: $450

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10 Players)
fold, limp, Hero calls, fold, limp, BTN limps, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($12) Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, EP checks, Hero bets $20, fold, BTN calls, SB folds, BB folds

Turn: ($52) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $40
Button calls $40


River: ($132) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks,
Button pushes all in for $108 more
Hero???



Comments on the turn bet?? The river check? Action afterwards? Likely hands of the opponent.

I am struggling with these hands and the reverse implied odds I am giving to people who might draw out on me.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

you check river to induce a bluff, so call.

I don't think you can cf that river because would villain really call with bottom pair?

This looks a lot like Tx/bluff to me because I would think a player would value bet KT/trips here.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

Yeah, you only lose to T9, really, lol, unless he is a habitual slow-player.

Btw, don't like how you played the hand.

Raise preflop. And as played I would check-raise the turn all-in rather than bet the turn.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

yes... agree now I should have raised pre-flop. It was the third hand I played so I was feeling things out.
As played with the weak limp pre-flop, how about the betting afterwards?

I did not check the turn because I thought the button was calling with a draw.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

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I did not check the turn because I thought the button was calling with a draw.

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which is exactly why you snap call the river because no draw got there. He's got like TJ/AT/T7 there a lot. If he's got T9, reload.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

c/r AI is a nice turn line too now that I think about it ... you can fold the river easier if a king or an eight comes if you check the turn and villain checks behind, but they may either have an overpair or a ten, which could bet the turn.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:13 PM
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crap... i mistyped the hand. The river was the 8 hearts. No wonder my question looked stupid. The draw came. very sorry about that...
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:15 PM
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crap... i mistyped the hand. The river was the 8 hearts. No wonder my question looked stupid. The draw came. very sorry about that...

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Lol, now INSTA-fold.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

If you thought he had a draw why are you confused on the river?
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Bet Sizing Question Based on Actual Live Hand

i folded... I was confused on whether I should have and whether I should have played it differently on the turn.

the guy told me he had A-10. He could have been lying but it sounds about right.
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