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Old 10-18-2007, 03:40 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

turn does look like a fold against sane players, theres some people against which its an easy stackoff though.

i dont like a turn c/r here too much because i feel like he's taking a lot of free cards, and most of the time will fold worse hands that he bets to a c/r (but will often call a bet)
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

Oh cmon all in
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

no one sees any merit in a flop check?
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

Josh, suppose you check the flop and one of the villains bets. Assuming that you call here, what is your plan for the remainder of the hand?
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

by checking the flop and then continuing vs a bet, you have now made your overall range stronger
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

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no one sees any merit in a flop check?

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I see a merit in a turn check or turn c/r. Don't really see just checking flop. Makes playing the hand harder later on. But once we're here, I prolly fold.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:31 AM
KRANTZ KRANTZ is offline
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

hate checking the flop, esp on UB

turn looks like a fold, and i would bet it (i also wouldn't always fold to the raise and sometimes shove, but on paper it looks like a fold)
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

heads up maybe a flop check is okay. there's another player in the hand. you'll just get yourself all confused with a flop check.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

I don't think you should be checking the flop with much of your range, and certainly not QQ. Turn is a fold without some player-specific read.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

he played fine, now fold because ur always up against 99/77/33/3x
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