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Old 11-13-2007, 11:23 AM
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Its why during a total solar eclipse the surface of the sun is completely covered but features emanating from the surface(corona, prominences, etc) are not.

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WELL THEN EXPLAIN THIS PICTURE TO ME. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Old 11-13-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: A coincidence that bothers me

Also, about the Proto-Moon/Earth collision being a "very lucky shot":

Sure, if it happened differently we would not be living on this this planet right now.
But, the fact that we ARE living on this planet right now means the collision had to happen exactly as it was. Else there would be no one here able to notice the "lucky shot" and discuss about it.
Therefore, we know nothing about how random the event actually was. Collisions will have occured millions and millions of times in the universe, but if this configuration is the only one that can lead to intelligent life then it will be the only one that gets noticed and analysed.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:40 PM
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I'll bite, where does god come from then? Surely the chance of an all powerful creator springing fully formed from nothing with the power to create the universe is much more improbably than the moon just covering the sun during an eclipse?

Or do we need to explain the universe and questions in science, but you don't have to explain god... That's hardly an even playing field
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: A coincidence that bothers me

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Also, about the Proto-Moon/Earth collision being a "very lucky shot":

Sure, if it happened differently we would not be living on this this planet right now.
But, the fact that we ARE living on this planet right now means the collision had to happen exactly as it was. Else there would be no one here able to notice the "lucky shot" and discuss about it.
Therefore, we know nothing about how random the event actually was. Collisions will have occured millions and millions of times in the universe, but if this configuration is the only one that can lead to intelligent life then it will be the only one that gets noticed and analysed.

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Its true... of the billions upon billions of people on the Earth, what are the odds that I would have married my wife? There are so many things that had to happen precisely at the right time for me to have met her and everything that led to our marriage. Yet, it did happen and it only seems unlikely if you look at it that way. Every day very unlikely things are happening. Its quite probable that they will.

None of which require an omnipotent creature manipulating things.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:02 PM
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WELL THEN EXPLAIN THIS PICTURE TO ME

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Hi FoldAlot,

The picture you posted is of an annular solar eclipse, not a total solar eclipse.

Stu
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:05 PM
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WELL THEN EXPLAIN THIS PICTURE TO ME

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Hi FoldAlot,

The picture you posted is of an annular solar eclipse, not a total solar eclipse.

Stu

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So a total solar eclipse is total?
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:10 PM
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So a total solar eclipse is total?

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A total solar eclipse is different from an annular eclipse. I'll leave it to Google to instruct you.

Stu
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:52 PM
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A total solar eclipse is different from an annular eclipse. I'll leave it to Google to instruct you.

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Yes, an annular eclipse is the eclipse that happens when a total solar eclipse would have happened, except that the size/distance ratio didn't quite line up exactly.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:56 PM
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A total solar eclipse is different from an annular eclipse. I'll leave it to Google to instruct you.

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Yes, an annular eclipse is the eclipse that happens when a total solar eclipse would have happened, except that the size/distance ratio didn't quite line up exactly.

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A much more succinct way of making the point I stuggled to. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:27 PM
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I am still waiting for your definition of 'exact'.
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