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Old 07-26-2007, 11:09 AM
praios praios is offline
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,116.96
BB: $1,552.00
UTG: $985.00
MP: $247.00
Hero (CO): $1,021.00
BTN: $2,919.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.00</font>, BTN calls $34.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($83) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $60.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $200.00</font>, Hero calls $140.00

Turn: ($483) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $450.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $787.00</font>, BTN calls $337.00

River: ($2057) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $2,057.00 ($3 Rake)

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Old 07-26-2007, 11:23 AM
zwolfe05 zwolfe05 is offline
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

buttons range of hands clearly makes this a fold by the turn. his pot sized bet is too much to make this a profitable call. you are at best getting 3:1 against hands like aq which i think is the bottom part of his range here and you obv less equity against a set. why would u push turn? u have no fold equity in this spot.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:33 AM
tozzy tozzy is offline
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

c/r is bad as its a semibluff with absolutely no FE and hardly enough pot equity.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:37 AM
Paul B. Paul B. is offline
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

Bet-call. Did you win?
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

I don't think the turn is even a call given stacks and bet size. Someone do the math...
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:53 AM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

To be honest, I probably woulda bet like $375 committing myself on the turn. C/rai with no FE with a big draw is pretty bad because that way he's committed to call with tons of hands that would fold to a big turn lead. With his stats tho, I woulda folded the flop.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:07 PM
FooSH FooSH is offline
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

Yah, fold the flop. Odds suck, especially when sets and AsXs are a decent % of his range.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

i would fold flop, and as played fold turn
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:21 PM
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i would fold flop, and as played fold turn

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: big draw on turn what to do

i had a splitt against 67 of diamonds [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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