The Answer - DN

[RikaKazak]

that sucks

[glimmertwin]

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Daniel N. is getting a divorce.

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Caught rogering his houseboy, obviously.

Seriously, aren't Christians supposed to have rules about this kind of thing? His post just seems to imply that they're just kind of fed up with each other, so it's time to move on.

I'm not in any way opposed to divorce, there's no kids that they should stay together for, and I'm an atheist myself so what do I know, but this really does seem typical of the modern North American approach to Christianity. Embrace the rules while they suit you, then drop them just as soon as they become inconvenient and start getting in the way of the things that you really want to do.

Reminds me of Newt Gingrich, who dumped his wife for a younger model while she was on her sickbed, dying of cancer. Not that Daniel is doing anything so cruel. Rather, that both of them have been espousing a set of values that they don't appear to genuinely embrace.

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The part I found interesting was that they both had agreed that they had tried their best.

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Dude, they've only been married for two years. I've had *arguments* with my wife that lasted longer than that.

While I don't believe that people should stay together and be miserable, if you're genuinely committed to a relationship, you stick in there and work at it even when things don't seem to be working. Because the relationship is more important than the other, trivial stuff that's getting in the way.

Daniel's blog is very nice and respectful, but I think it's also somewhat dishonest insofar as I don't believe it's telling us what the real reasons for his divorce are. Now, it's none of our business anyway, and he may not even know himself, but in my experience this 'we've grown apart' business tends to be a euphemism for one of two things:

a.) I want somebody else, or
b.) I hate your guts

Finally, I think it's a little weird discussing someone else's divorce in this way, but if he puts his private business out there for public discussion, it doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate and pontificate.

[Crazy Porto]

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Daniel N. is getting a divorce.

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Caught rogering his houseboy, obviously.

Seriously, aren't Christians supposed to have rules about this kind of thing? His post just seems to imply that they're just kind of fed up with each other, so it's time to move on.

I'm not in any way opposed to divorce, there's no kids that they should stay together for, and I'm an atheist myself so what do I know, but this really does seem typical of the modern North American approach to Christianity. Embrace the rules while they suit you, then drop them just as soon as they become inconvenient and start getting in the way of the things that you really want to do.

Reminds me of Newt Gingrich, who dumped his wife for a younger model while she was on her sickbed, dying of cancer. Not that Daniel is doing anything so cruel. Rather, that both of them have been espousing a set of values that they don't appear to genuinely embrace.

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The part I found interesting was that they both had agreed that they had tried their best.

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Dude, they've only been married for two years. I've had *arguments* with my wife that lasted longer than that.

While I don't believe that people should stay together and be miserable, if you're genuinely committed to a relationship, you stick in there and work at it even when things don't seem to be working. Because the relationship is more important than the other, trivial stuff that's getting in the way.

Daniel's blog is very nice and respectful, but I think it's also somewhat dishonest insofar as I don't believe it's telling us what the real reasons for his divorce are. Now, it's none of our business anyway, and he may not even know himself, but in my experience this 'we've grown apart' business tends to be a euphemism for one of two things:

a.) I want somebody else, or
b.) I hate your guts

Finally, I think it's a little weird discussing someone else's divorce in this way, but if he puts his private business out there for public discussion, it doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate and pontificate.

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do you often have the feeling people fall asleep when you start talking to them?

[Kinbor]

Once we finished talking we both felt sooo much better instantly! I liked her better already, lol!

this was priceless. it completely changed the flow of the article, at first being pretty serious than cracking up like that.

[Hotel Detect]

I pointed out that DN was probably getting divorced last week and got instaflamed simply cuz i said that meant there was a small chance he was coming out.

I personally think that DN is most likely heterosexual, but if he is homosexual I have no problem with it WHATSOEVER. I do not understand the people that get all bent out of shape for those suggesting the mere possibility that he may be gay.

What does it matter if he is? This is a gossip forum after all.

[SuperUberBob]

I like the phrase "we've grown apart". If he means that they were screaming at each other at the top of their lungs or something like that, then okay.

No divorce is clean cut and smooth. It may start out that way in rare cases, but people start claiming what theirs and what isn't, then it become a battle. It's doubly worse when there are kids involved in the equation. Even if it's clean right now, by the time they get their lawyers to sort out all of the legal matters and conditions, they'll be sworn enemies. I've seen the shouting matches, custody battles and death threats first hand.

I'm surprised that DN even mentioned anything about his divorce. I really don't think there's much to gain by airing personal grievances of this nature. It only leads to speculation and talk from people like us on stuff that we really don't have the right to know. I mean, now the "OMG DN IS GAY" group is bouncing as seen by some in this thread.

But best of luck to ya DN in the future.

[Soulman]

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No divorce is clean cut and smooth. It may start out that way in rare cases, but people start claiming what theirs and what isn't, then it become a battle. It's doubly worse when there are kids involved in the equation. Even if it's clean right now, by the time they get their lawyers to sort out all of the legal matters and conditions, they'll be sworn enemies. I've seen the shouting matches, custody battles and death threats first hand.

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Sorry dude, this is a load of bull. I've seen several cases of divorces that were settled very amicably, although I'll agree that there is usually some amount of disagreement/hostility.

[glimmertwin]

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do you often have the feeling people fall asleep when you start talking to them?

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Not really. I don't hang with people who have short attention spans. But the bit about 'rogering the houseboy' was in there to satisfy the tl:dr crowd.

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I really don't understand the DN hating that goes on on 2P2...

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I tend to think of it less as hating, and more as the kind of locker room teasing that you'd get at school or wherever. IMO, people like to speculate about DN because he's one of a very small number of genuinely interesting personalities in poker, and because he's fairly comfortable putting a lot of his personal business 'out there' on his blog or in interviews.

[ActionFreak]

Paul Smecker: [after Smecker gets a phone call in bed with his gay lover and slaps him]
Paul Smecker: What are you doing?
Hojo: I just wanted to cuddle.
Paul Smecker: Cuddle? What a f.ag.

[UncleKraut]

I don't think he is fully gay...maybe just too metro/bi-ish to maintain a marriage