M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

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This is something that I frankly don't understand.

We have guys on this site like pokey & Cry Me A River who make masterful posts again and again that diligent members can read, discuss and use to become skilled poker players.

And no one has a problem with that. In fact, that's exactly why we all come here. To improve our poker play.

But when it comes to short stack information, some people become down right paranoid.

Why are we afraid to help shorties improve their skills, but we bend over backward to help out full stackers?

It doesn't make sense. Either we help other players, or we don't. Either there are enough fish to feed us all, or there aren't.

To you guys who are paranoid and "hold back" in discussions of short stacking, let me ask you this:

Do you also hold back and not share everything you know in discussions of full stack poker? If that's true, would you ever pass along wrong strategy or information, so you can "keep your edge?"

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I speculate that a lot of people hold back information on "fullstack" poker. I imagine that a lot of people are especially fearful about shortstacking because it could take away such a large edge when you compare it to giving away the information of "fullstack" poker.

If everyone starts shortstacking then it changes the way the game plays immensely. I don't think we will see the minimum buy-in get any smaller and I also imagine that shortstacking will become more and more popular on the internet until "fullstack" poker becomes hard to come by. It would go along with the current tend of online poker.

[AceCR9]

I would have no problem with MT2R COACHING with some of his strategy, for those who want to pay for it. Just like everyone else.

but giving away info that will hurt games(for everyone)- just because most of us hate SS'ers, is beyond retarded.

like other higher stakes players I've spent a lot of time on poker, working to improve, putting in hands, etc. I made the effort, gave up other opportunities, and it has payed off.

While I may give small advice on hands on forums, there is no way I would ever write full out startegy and giving it away. I like money, and that last thing I want to see is the games get harder.

[phydaux]

So are we poker players, or just NL hold'em cash game players?

If tomorrow all the fish moved to limit London lowball, would we follow them or would we quit playing all together?

I don't know about you guys, but I don't expect the internet NL cash game craze to last forever. I fully expect that some day NL hold'em will die out and some other poker varient will take off. That's why I have a plan to eventually learn all the HORSE games, as well as HU limit hold'em.

Why are we so afraid of "ruining" NL cash games? Nothing is forever. You all talk about "adapting to game conditions." Well, freakin' adapt if shorties kill NL cash!