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Old 09-12-2007, 10:43 PM
yabastid yabastid is offline
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Default I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $178.15
BB: $200.00
UTG: $316.85
CO: $332.30
Hero (BTN): $288.15

Reads: <font color="blue">I have been somewhat aggro against villian "I drop dueces", mostly in the blinds 3 betting him a couple of times and raising when he open completed. A couple orbits earlier I reraised his SB open raise with 1010 and flat called 2 streets on a 9 high flop and we checked through the river- he showed Q9o and MHIG. I don't know his calling range OOP but I'm thinking it's looser or maybe he's getting trappy. So.....</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $15.00

Flop: ($45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J 9 (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J 9 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $30.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00

River: ($105) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J 9 7 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>

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Old 09-12-2007, 10:45 PM
thac thac is offline
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

This flop is so drawy that I'd rather bet flop and check turn if I was gonna get 'tricky'. What do you do when the Kd comes out? Still take the same line? I just would rather bet flop and see what he does before I decide to get tricky.
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

more on the river to look more bluffy, unless you are trying to induce but I dont think thats happening often at all.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:36 PM
RikkiDee RikkiDee is offline
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

I like it especially against someone you play vs a lot. Obviously in a vacuum this isn't the most optimal +EV 2+2 way to play but its still not that horrible since you probably aren't going to be winning or losing a lot in this pot with that flop.

I also agree that you should bet river at least $80 since you probably will get looked up very light.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:37 PM
As armas As armas is offline
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

I dont know. With 45 in the pot you charged 30 for him to see the turn and the river when your hand is vulnerable but prob good. If villain has been really coming after you when you show weakness sure, induce bluffs/pot control here but most of time bet flop and go from there.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:38 PM
Shes92 Shes92 is offline
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

definitely betting this drawy flop .. I h8 losing a decent sized pot trying to be tricky ..
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:55 PM
yabastid yabastid is offline
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

I really hate getting CR off my hand on that flop especially since my CB is probably gonna be around $35 and his reraise will probably be around $110ish. Given our history and my "feeling" (though I could be wrong) that he may want to tangle, I would hate folding the best hand here. Also I thought there was a chance he might be slowplaying PF, so I thought checking behind was ok here. I do know what your saying and had the Kd hit on the turn I probably check behind again and probably call a river bet, though it would suck and I would hate myself.


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This flop is so drawy that I'd rather bet flop and check turn if I was gonna get 'tricky'. What do you do when the Kd comes out? Still take the same line? I just would rather bet flop and see what he does before I decide to get tricky.

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Old 09-13-2007, 09:00 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

If you've been 3-betting him a lot just bet the flop and hope he plays back at you.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: I get unorthodox and it feels kinda good.

yeah wtf bet the flop. the dude sounds like hes ready to play back at you so let him.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:06 PM
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I really hate getting CR off my hand on that flop especially since my CB is probably gonna be around $35 and his reraise will probably be around $110ish. Given our history and my "feeling" (though I could be wrong) that he may want to tangle, I would hate folding the best hand here.

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I'm never folding if he shoves flop.. why would you?
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