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Old 08-22-2007, 07:44 AM
skibbel skibbel is offline
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Default AJ, TPGK fires twice, need a riverplan

First hand, villian unkown, do u like my turnbet? whats your riverplan?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (6 handed)

Hero ($51.20)
CO ($79.85)
Button ($40.70)
SB ($57.25)
BB ($66.75)
UTG ($61.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, J.
1 fold, ]Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) Q, A, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.5</font>, Button calls $7.50.

River: ($25.75) T (2 players)

What to do if i check and he bets 1/2PS 2/3PS or pushs?
Hero ???
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

If u're not sure ur hand is good, why don't you use a blocking bet? Bet like $12 and fold to a raise.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

The raise would be a minraise =&gt; bad
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:25 AM
LOLDONKBETZ LOLDONKBETZ is offline
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

what hands do you beat here? You split with AJ, you lose to AK/AQ/AT which are all reasonable holdings. You beat KQ/KJ but he probably isn't calling the turn with those.

There are no draws except a gutshot which is improbable. You've fired on flop and turn for 2/3 pot and he hasn't gone away.

You are most likely beat here. Do not bet $12 and then fold to a raise. You have some showdown value, check/call unless he pushes then you can be assured of a set/2p, but hope to get to showdown as cheap as you can.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

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You are most likely beat here.

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I disagree, Villian has a bad kicker many times. But i doubt he calls a 3rd bet or bets with it.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

c/c a small bet here is probably the most +EV it induces bluffs from weaker holdings and probably get's to showdown cheaply against stronger holdings.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:36 AM
LOLDONKBETZ LOLDONKBETZ is offline
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

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You are most likely beat here.

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I disagree, Villian has a bad kicker many times. But i doubt he calls a 3rd bet or bets with it.

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Then you answered your own question. This is a river check/fold. He isn't calling you without a better hand, and he isn't folding a worse.

Next time put villian notes in OP and not say unknown [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

c/c....villain would have RR AQ/AK at some point and the likelihood of villain calling with a range that you beat after you fire 3 barrels wouldn't outweigh the times you're splitting vs AJ, losing to an improved AT or passively played AQ/AK (villain's calling range is leading factor for firing 3 barrels)

BUT, villain also didn't RR pf so maybe a better line would be lead for 1/2pot and fold to raise
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:42 AM
LOLDONKBETZ LOLDONKBETZ is offline
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

Why would he need to reraise on flop or turn with AK/AQ/or a set. He has position and hero is leading every street. He knows he has the best hand and isn't getting as much value from reraising until the river when villian is committed if he holds any ace/two pair.

I think villian played this well and you will see a value bet on the river that hero should not call because he beats nothing
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: AJ, TPGK bets fires twice, need a riverplan

donkbetz, how often do choose to call AQ/AK pf instead of 3-betting(if not a large %, you're playing too passively)?
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