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Old 11-14-2006, 08:12 PM
KRANTZ KRANTZ is offline
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Default trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

FullTiltPoker Game #1242994911: Table Bluff (heads up) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:18:05 ET - 2006/11/13
Seat 1: HERO ($6,449)
Seat 2: DC10FIREBALL ($8,992)
wlfpkg3811 (Observer): if u giver me a bj
DC10FIREBALL posts the small blind of $25
HERO posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [9d Qd]
DC10FIREBALL raises to $150
HERO calls $100
*** FLOP *** [7s 9c Js]
wlfpkg3811 (Observer): ill sjhip u 5 or 10
HERO checks
DC10FIREBALL checks
*** TURN *** [7s 9c Js] [9s]
HERO bets $300
DC10FIREBALL raises to $1,200

i'm 90% sure he bets a set, straight, two pair or spades on the flop (also overpairs). What's my best course of action?

If you call, what do you do on

a. blank river
b. spade river
c. jack river
d. Q, K or A river

Thanks guys
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:22 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

I would re-raise. Too strong and too vulnerable a hand to just call.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

raise to 2750
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

Raising the turn here is horrible.

Krantz, On a blank rvr I chk & let him dig further. On a scare rvr I'd evaluate his river bet vs his style and proceed from there.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

Im in the raise turn camp, just stack sizes are weird for that.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

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i'm 90% sure he bets a set, straight, two pair or spades on the flop (also overpairs).

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Does this mean you are 90% sure he has air, a single high spade, or 9x here?

I don't play this high; tell me though, is it safe to assume that villain almost never has Jx here? (besides maybe J9) This seems an impossible line for even the best non-boat J (AsJx); first of all checking the flop would be idiotic, and then on the turn he would be turning his hand into a bluff no? (and also risking reopening and getting shoved off his hand) Therefore while I can't comment on 3/4 of your river scenarios, I think I would (having called the turn bet obv) be 1/2 pot bet/folding a J river every single time. But please correct me if I'm wrong about the possibilities of aggro and/or tricky HSNL hu players having a J here a decent amount of the time.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:26 AM
KRANTZ KRANTZ is offline
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

he can definitely check a jack back on the flop, so yeah, he either has air, a spade, a jack or 9x most of the time
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:33 AM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

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he can definitely check a jack back on the flop, so yeah, he either has air, a spade, a jack or 9x most of the time

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funny you posted this krantz because I was just about to post the same hand except that the 7 was a deuce instead. in the end I was shown K9.

This is such a marginal situation given stack sizes. My intuition would be to call the turn bet and then check call the river. I just believe reraising the turn sucks because you would leave yourself a tough spot on the river.

Although is raising the turn terrible given the strength of your hand and the drawiness of the board.

What would be done on a J992 board+ flush draw. Check/calling here better?
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

Whatever you do, don't giver wlfpkg3811 a BJ.

BTW, I RR to ~3500, and throw up when he goes allin on me.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: trip 9s on my mind- 25/50 HU

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Whatever you do, don't giver wlfpkg3811 a BJ.

BTW, I RR to ~3500, and throw up when he goes allin on me.

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I dont like this. For this to be correct, your image needs to be that of a complete maniac, OR he is doing this with a flush draw or a hand like AT or QT a good portion of the time. You're folding out everything else and I dont think many other hands are going to call this reraise. MAYBE T9 and 89 call you here, if you're laggy enough and they dislike folding. but if a bad card hits the river, you cant even play against these hands for max value.

my two cents; i dont think turn reraising is the key, betting the turn though is right. So, fold or call the turn?
Im leaning to call. c/c the river? I think so UNLESS a third flush comes out and he seems strong still or unless a high A or K falls off that isnt a flush. I would bet out here.

-Joo
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