my noob post & an $11 AK hand

justatrey · #1 08-11-2006, 08:38 PM

I've been a lurker for around 6 months, and should start by thanking all you STT regulars for all the great advice. I'm 24 and started playing live 2 years ago, and online about a year later. I work on a computer all day which makes it tough to come home and put in alot of hours playing (tough on eyes), but I've decided to start committing more time to the game. [censored] my eyes. I've made around $1000 playing almost entirely $5 and $10 sngs...one tabling. This is really pretty pathetic considering how much time I probably put into 1 tabling with around 100 buy-ins. I know this is a waste of time and money if you're beating the game but I've heard it's the best way to really learn how to play. I just started 4 tabling last week after deciding it's time to really put some effort into playing more, reading/posting here, and moving up faster. My biggest weakness is not putting in the time/effort to play or study/improve, so starting today thats what I'm trying to do.

On to the hand - Its early so no reads. I'm mostly interested in what your river play is, but any help is appreciated.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t1430)
BB (t1440)
Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1690)
MP1 (t1040)
MP2 (t1415)
MP3 (t1940)
CO (t1575)
Button (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t70, UTG+1 calls t70, 1 fold, MP2 calls t70, MP3 calls t70, 4 folds.

Flop: (t310) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t150, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t150.

Turn: (t610) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t300, MP3 calls t300.

River: (t1210) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero?

Final Pot: t2170

cakewalk · #2 08-11-2006, 08:45 PM

i bet 200 on the flop. 1/2-2/3 pot on the turn. river card doesnt scare me, im probably pushing or betting a large amount.

edit: be damned if he has a 9

taipan168 · #3 08-11-2006, 08:49 PM

Welcome to the forums! I'm in a similar situation to you and have learned a great deal here.

Minor point, but from UTG I make it 80-100 to go preflop at Level 1 in a $11, helps to thin the field a little more. Otherwise I agree with bengiec, bet a bit more on all streets.

Pudge714 · #4 08-11-2006, 08:59 PM

Bet like 200-250 on the flop 400-500 on the turn. Once I made those bets I shove river. Here I probably shove river, but I'm not crazy about it.

Aleo · #5 08-11-2006, 09:07 PM

You have been underbetting all the way with draws on the board and no surprise, one got there.

The turn bets needs to be way bigger as you have two draws on the board and about half the deck makes your decision tough on the river.

As it was, it is very possible that you are now beat by diamonds or even a backdoor straight draw

Even with the raise preflop and the way some guys play these in the early levels, even a 9 or TJ is not out of the question.

I probably make another bet of 300 because check folding screams weakness and will induce bluffs against you that will be hard to call. I fold to a raise and try to come back from a half stack. Maybe I just check fold in the first place.

Truth be told, I hate every option you have on this river and am not sure what to do. This is a case of mistakes eariler in the hand making later decisions very difficult.The big mistake was not betting more on the turn.

Welcome

Pudge714 · #6 08-11-2006, 09:08 PM

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Truth be told, I hate every option you have on this river and am not sure what to do. This is a case of mistakes eariler in the hand making later decisions very difficult.The big mistake was not betting more on the turn.

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Very nice post. Are you going to start posting more often here?

Aleo · #7 08-11-2006, 09:16 PM

probably not. I'm basically a cash game player now. I really do not know what I am doing posting at all. Maybe it's because I am still delirious from yesterdays WSOP final table PPV

Maybe if Durron gives me a cool title I'll make an effort

justatrey · #8 08-11-2006, 09:26 PM

Thanks to all for the advice...it looks like I underbet flop and turn. But given that the flop and turn are misplayed...

I like Aleo's line of bet 300/fold to a raise. You get value from Ax and lose a smaller amount than c/c a bigger bet from a better hand. I think I almost always c/c when I can save by using a blocking bet. It's something I need to learn, Thanks Aleo.

I noticed I left the final pot in by mistake...anyway I c/c'd something like 450 and lost to A9.

patrick10 · #9 08-11-2006, 09:39 PM

i think you need to put some faith in MP3 not being a total douche calling 1/3 his stack on a draw and either bet out about 300 again and catch him with a weaker ace or fold to a raise, -

or check call ? although if you check his raise would likely be all-in, in which case youd have to fold

edit. agree, bet more on the flop. i like about 150, i want 1-2 callers

patrick10 · #10 08-11-2006, 09:46 PM

omg for once in my life my thinking is actually correct ! wooooooooo

time to turn pro

ps. no i did not read replies first although my post is eerily similar to aleo's'