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Old 11-13-2007, 04:42 PM
Iq75 Iq75 is offline
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Default $216 standard: What do you push over here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Level4, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed)

UTG (t1780)
UTG+1 (t2170)
MP (t2250)
CO (t1990)
Button(t6880)
SB (t3200)
Hero (t1730)

Preflop: Hero is BB with X,X.

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds,MP folds,CO folds, Button raises to t400, SB folds, hero raises to t1730 and is allin...

Button was 40,8/16,3 after 49 hands. Havent seem him minraise preflop before this. What would you push over his minraise?
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: $216 standard: What do you push over here?

AT+ 77+
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: $216 standard: What do you push over here?

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AT+ 77+

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IMO hero has to push here way more hands than that. Firstof villains stats indicate that he is laggy preflop. So most likely he minraises tons of hands firstin from the button. If he folds to the push we get 700 chips wich is almost 1/2 of what we have now. That would be huge. And if he calls we would still have nice overlay in the pot compared to us folding.

We do have to narrow our pushing range a bit because some villains minraise only big pairs/other premium cards here and raise more with other holdings.

But IMO most of the time the minraisingrange of most villains with those stats and that stack is huge. And we do have nice folding equity. So i would push at least all pairs here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: $216 standard: What do you push over here?

He's pretty much pot committed so Scotty's range is good.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: $216 standard: What do you push over here?

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He's pretty much pot committed so Scotty's range is good.

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There are two problems with that reasoning:
1) villains stats indicate that he does not understand pot odds. After the raise he might look at his crappy hand (that he tried to steal with)and muck it because he figures that his beat.
2) He is getting 1330:1830 or 1:1,38. If (some other) villain puts hero in your range AT+, 77+ it would be +EV for him to fold a lot of hands that belong to his range.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: $216 standard: What do you push over here?

Anyone else?

Dont let the buyin scare you. Since we have stats from the villain the situation would be almost the same in most buyins. I would especially appreciate if people that have SNGWIZ would chime in.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: $216 standard: What do you push over here?

I'd agree with Scotty's range too. Maybe adding 66, KQs but that's about as far down as I'd go.
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