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Old 03-20-2007, 05:29 PM
tsitonats tsitonats is offline
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Blinds were at 250/500. I was the current chip leader. I woke up with J-J under the gun and raise it up to 1800. A player before the cutoff moves in for 2000, the player in the big blind calls and I complete my 2000. the flop comes J-8-5 rainbow. The BB checked and I check due to the dry side pot. The turn comes a 9 and the BB moves all in. Though I have the guy covered, it would cost me 80-85% of my stack to call. I thought about it quite a bit and asked the guy if he had it and (of course) he said yes. Based on how I knew the guy played, I thought about what he had and put him on Q-10 probably suited. I folded my Jacks face up and with wide eyes he turned over 9-9. The player all in had A-8o and was drawing dead.

The guy ended up winning the session.

I know I made a mistake in the hand. I probably should have bet on the flop and forced the guy out. Question is, was it correct to fold the set or should I have called? What other mistakes do you see from my play given the information I gave?

Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

Umm...wrong forum, but bet the flop and if you don't then certainly call the turn.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

Wrong forum. But still gross.

Bet the flop. Bet the turn.

Putting a player on one specific hand is bad. I also don't think most players are going to call a raise and a push with 10Q from the bb. (unless its final table and they know you'll likely both check it down)

Mostly- checking that flop is terrible, especially if you have the tendency to put someone on the turn specifically on the one hand that is beating you.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

thanks for the replies!

which forum do i post this to anyway?
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

multi table tournaments (or single table tournaments if it is a STT)
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

ROFL you really folded?
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

You can't fold this.

Its ridiculous to put him on exactly Q10 especially considering preflop action.

You seems to consider him tight? Well even if he is not no one calls for more than half their stack preflop with Q10 after a player raises and another goes all in. His push is an aggressive move to race with the all in player.

And on the turn, why would he just push... if he had the nuts?! He wouldn't... he'd try to get some money from you.

Folding this is laughable, I snap call so fast....
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Old 03-21-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: folded top set

i was knocking my head silly after he showed the 9s.

this was an STT.

he didn't call half his stack pre-flop. the call costed him maybe 10% of his stack.

thank you all for your inputs! there's still a lot more to be learned!
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