Open-Ended Versus Nath

[registrar]

We fold to a shove.
We call a weak bet.
We make a straight or check the river if we don't.

I'm not mad keen on doing any of the above but then I don't bet the flop into a good LAG three-way because he's not going to fold enough and not going to call enough when we hit on a later street and because there's all sorts of ways/cards that will see us pay off OOP.

Edit: as others said, we can also bluff river scare cards (not that I would) or open shove the turn (which I might).

[curtains]

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Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.

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c/f or crai?

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My bad, I don't read good. I thought we had position.

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i think i pot flop so there is enough so i can dbl barrel shove the turn.

[Mench]

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His smooth call with one left to act behind him on the flop is worrisome. Any draw you'd expect him to push there. Floating against an UTG raiser with someone else in the pot seems overly risky. Since you're playing for his stack and most of yours if you go any further in the hand, I think you have to check/fold here. I also vote for C/R the flop here.

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totally agree with this. once we get to the turn like this, his hand really has to be pretty solid, and able to call a shove.

[jlocdog]

Foucault,

Would you care to continue with the turn action....

[DCJ311]

betting 2600-3000 on turn seems a tad better than checking. I also like check raising flop.

[nath]

I just want to say that, reading this thread, it's mind-boggling the ranges people assign for me sometimes and the plays they make at me as a result.

[gobboboy]

Fold preflop. Nath should've too, pretty much regardless of what he had.

[nath]

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Fold preflop. Nath should've too, pretty much regardless of what he had.

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[shaundeeb]

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Fold preflop. Nath should've too, pretty much regardless of what he had.

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LOL, for once gobbo is wrong.