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Old 08-17-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: Open-Ended Versus Nath

Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:54 AM
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Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.

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c/f or crai?
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: Open-Ended Versus Nath

As an unknown to villain, I'd check-raise the flop - were you bet-calling here? Seems bad. Dunno if history/image makes a difference.

As played, check turn.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:44 AM
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Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.

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c/f or crai?

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I don't think he's going to give us room to check-push.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:41 AM
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I def like the c/shove line vs nath PF stacks perfect for it.

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whats nath's range given preflop? if its mostly pairs he's never folding to the cr.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:08 AM
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Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.

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c/f or crai?

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I don't think he's going to give us room to check-push.

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Fine, then c/c or crai?
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:45 AM
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Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.

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c/f or crai?

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I don't think he's going to give us room to check-push.

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Fine, then c/c or crai?

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Check evaluate.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:56 AM
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He likely has a pocket pair or something like 79,89,910 or just straight diamonds. Its not certain but I think he'd raise the flop if he flopped a set. You'd think he'd be more aggressive with a big draw as well (8 10 diamonds, J10 diamonds, J8 diamonds).

I like a bet of about 3700 here. It's enough to muscle out the pairs that didn't set or the top pair type hands and it should also get the straight diamond flush draw hands (KQ diamonds, KJ diamonds, QJ diamonds,etc) to go away.
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:59 AM
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I would not expect to see a set or big draw here ever. He's got some kind of medium strength hand or weak draw. Problem is Nath is more then capable of calling a shove with a medium strength hand.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:30 PM
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Screw it. Check turn, bet any Ace or king or straightening river.

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c/f or crai?

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I don't think he's going to give us room to check-push.

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Fine, then c/c or crai?

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Check evaluate.

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This line doesn't really make sense when Villain has just a tad over a PSB left. We should have a specific plan that guages how we will respond to a:
1) check behind
2) weak bet
3) shove
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